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by Penny on 25 November 2009 - 22:11
BAGSD
DERBYSHIRE VPG BRANCH
KOERUNG SEMINAR
SATURDAY 12th DECEMBER 2009
Willington Village Hall, Twyford Road, Willington, Derbyshire DE65 6DE
(only just over 1 mile off main A.38)
What is a Koerung?
How do I get my dog ready for a Koerung?
What happens at a Koerung?
What's a Lebenzeit Koerung?
These and other questions will be answered by Alyson Reilly and Carol Eastwood (Antilli GSDs).
A BH demonstration will also be held.
Starting at 12 noon the seminar and demonstration is expected to last 2 to 3 hours
There is no charge for this Seminar, but numbers will be limited – please book by e-mail or phone: - mascani22@aol.com - 01283 733333.
This is the ideal opportunity for you and your dog to get ready for the first British KOERUNG to be held on 19th, 20th & 21st March 2010, together with an AD conducted by Franz Peter Knaul (SV) – Koermeister.
On the same weekend we will also hold a BH & SchH Trial – WUSV Judge to be announced.
Further details will be announced nearer the time.
DERBYSHIRE VPG BRANCH
KOERUNG SEMINAR
SATURDAY 12th DECEMBER 2009
Willington Village Hall, Twyford Road, Willington, Derbyshire DE65 6DE
(only just over 1 mile off main A.38)
What is a Koerung?
How do I get my dog ready for a Koerung?
What happens at a Koerung?
What's a Lebenzeit Koerung?
These and other questions will be answered by Alyson Reilly and Carol Eastwood (Antilli GSDs).
A BH demonstration will also be held.
Starting at 12 noon the seminar and demonstration is expected to last 2 to 3 hours
There is no charge for this Seminar, but numbers will be limited – please book by e-mail or phone: - mascani22@aol.com - 01283 733333.
This is the ideal opportunity for you and your dog to get ready for the first British KOERUNG to be held on 19th, 20th & 21st March 2010, together with an AD conducted by Franz Peter Knaul (SV) – Koermeister.
On the same weekend we will also hold a BH & SchH Trial – WUSV Judge to be announced.
Further details will be announced nearer the time.
by nugget on 26 November 2009 - 09:11
Hi Mo;
Best of luck with your event and I hope it well attended and successful.
Just a note though; it is not the first UK Koerung- this was held under the auspices of the GSD Breed Council and British Schutzhund Association (BSA) on 27th June 1998. It was hosted by the West Yorkshire GSD Club at the club grounds of BSA club White Rose SCH Club. I attended with the at the time BSA British National Schutzhund Champion Vorhanden Jeck SCH3, (Link to an article about Jeck; http://www.southcheshireschutzhundclub.co.uk/images/articles/vorhanden%20jeck/vorhanden%20jeck.htm) PS; the small child hugging the dog you may regognise as my son Jamie, who was the short work helper at this year's GSD League Working Group National Championships - he is now 6'4"!
Jeck was given the Grade "One" by Surveyor Terry Hannan. Jim Jackson (Then BSA Judge, currently WUSV GSDL SCH Judge) officated over the Working Test.
Jeck's best SchHIII scores were as below;:
a) 95 b) 92 c) 97 (284) 19/11/95 Bobby Behan 1st Place White Rose Trial
a) 98 b) 90 c) 98 (286) 16/06/96 Wim van Dijk 1st Place White Rose Trial
a) 98 b) 94 c) 95 (287) 23/03/97 Eric Roberts/ Bobby Behan/ Chris Bell 1st Place BSA Inter Regional Championships
a) 96 b) 94 c) 94 (284) 20/04/97 Louis Vanderpoel Welsh Nationals
a) 99 b) 88 c) 97 (285) 06/09/97 Her Gunter Voss 1st Place White Rose Trial
I am not grabbing bragging writes here; I mention it primarily to counter the opinion vocalised by some on this board (notably one or two cyberjockies from the States) that the UK remains in the GSD Pleistocene...
Cheers and good luck again;
Chris
Best of luck with your event and I hope it well attended and successful.
Just a note though; it is not the first UK Koerung- this was held under the auspices of the GSD Breed Council and British Schutzhund Association (BSA) on 27th June 1998. It was hosted by the West Yorkshire GSD Club at the club grounds of BSA club White Rose SCH Club. I attended with the at the time BSA British National Schutzhund Champion Vorhanden Jeck SCH3, (Link to an article about Jeck; http://www.southcheshireschutzhundclub.co.uk/images/articles/vorhanden%20jeck/vorhanden%20jeck.htm) PS; the small child hugging the dog you may regognise as my son Jamie, who was the short work helper at this year's GSD League Working Group National Championships - he is now 6'4"!
Jeck was given the Grade "One" by Surveyor Terry Hannan. Jim Jackson (Then BSA Judge, currently WUSV GSDL SCH Judge) officated over the Working Test.
Jeck's best SchHIII scores were as below;:
a) 95 b) 92 c) 97 (284) 19/11/95 Bobby Behan 1st Place White Rose Trial
a) 98 b) 90 c) 98 (286) 16/06/96 Wim van Dijk 1st Place White Rose Trial
a) 98 b) 94 c) 95 (287) 23/03/97 Eric Roberts/ Bobby Behan/ Chris Bell 1st Place BSA Inter Regional Championships
a) 96 b) 94 c) 94 (284) 20/04/97 Louis Vanderpoel Welsh Nationals
a) 99 b) 88 c) 97 (285) 06/09/97 Her Gunter Voss 1st Place White Rose Trial
I am not grabbing bragging writes here; I mention it primarily to counter the opinion vocalised by some on this board (notably one or two cyberjockies from the States) that the UK remains in the GSD Pleistocene...
Cheers and good luck again;
Chris
by bazza on 26 November 2009 - 09:11
Chris good for you!!!! Penny, good luck with your event.
by Penny on 26 November 2009 - 16:11
Many thanks both for your good wishes.
Chris, sorry, it sounds misleading the way I have put it, what I am meaning to get over is the point that this is the first UK Koerung whereby it will go on to paperwork for your dog by the SV - which is important to people showing their dogs. Mostly, other than a few real dedicated folk, we have all sent our dogs to Germanyto get their Keorung, BH AD and Sch.h. qualifications, and what we are aiming at with this start, is that people get to work their own dogs, and qualified SV / WUSV judges are brought over to get the qualification which will count in Europe too.
Right now - for people showing on the continent, even gaining a title in the UK or a Koreung isnt counted by the SV. It has to be gained under SV qualified Koremeister - or in the case of the BH & Sch.h. title a WUSV judge.
Flip its complicated. As anyone can hear, this is new ground for me - she that only ran her dogs around in ever-decreasing circles before working them came to mind -but I have to say, I have been so encouraged by all the people currently working their dogs, and their helpful atittudes - and even though I`m not experienced or good at it I am enjoying seeing our dogs come on, and really enjoy themselves.
I`m wondering why I didnt do it years ago, as the dogs get so much pleasure doing it. You only realise that your dog is worth more than circling at week-ends when you take on working them too. Chris, I hope you will come down at the week-end and I dont consider you are bragging, but I certainly would if my dog and I had done all that - very well done.
Mo - Mascani
Chris, sorry, it sounds misleading the way I have put it, what I am meaning to get over is the point that this is the first UK Koerung whereby it will go on to paperwork for your dog by the SV - which is important to people showing their dogs. Mostly, other than a few real dedicated folk, we have all sent our dogs to Germanyto get their Keorung, BH AD and Sch.h. qualifications, and what we are aiming at with this start, is that people get to work their own dogs, and qualified SV / WUSV judges are brought over to get the qualification which will count in Europe too.
Right now - for people showing on the continent, even gaining a title in the UK or a Koreung isnt counted by the SV. It has to be gained under SV qualified Koremeister - or in the case of the BH & Sch.h. title a WUSV judge.
Flip its complicated. As anyone can hear, this is new ground for me - she that only ran her dogs around in ever-decreasing circles before working them came to mind -but I have to say, I have been so encouraged by all the people currently working their dogs, and their helpful atittudes - and even though I`m not experienced or good at it I am enjoying seeing our dogs come on, and really enjoy themselves.
I`m wondering why I didnt do it years ago, as the dogs get so much pleasure doing it. You only realise that your dog is worth more than circling at week-ends when you take on working them too. Chris, I hope you will come down at the week-end and I dont consider you are bragging, but I certainly would if my dog and I had done all that - very well done.
Mo - Mascani
by nugget on 27 November 2009 - 00:11
Hi Mo;
Thanks for the invite; might make the Koerung in March, but we have a Trial at the Club with Eric Roberts judging the weekend of the 13th, unfortunately.
Glad that you are enjoying working your dogs and you are getting good help and advice.
I am aware of the problems that you are experiencing re what is "WUSV approved" (ie acceptable in Europe) in the context of showing- I am aware that the GSDL is also trying to clarify things at this moment in time. To people purely interested in attending WUSV/FCI International Working Championships etc this has not in the past been a major issue- (and both GSDL and BAGSD now have WUSV approved SCH judges) but it is becoming one as a consequence of the concern of our members with duel interests. I hope the situation becomes clearer in the near future.
Anyway, best of luck with your event on 13th- I am sure you will enjoy.
Cheers Chris
Thanks for the invite; might make the Koerung in March, but we have a Trial at the Club with Eric Roberts judging the weekend of the 13th, unfortunately.
Glad that you are enjoying working your dogs and you are getting good help and advice.
I am aware of the problems that you are experiencing re what is "WUSV approved" (ie acceptable in Europe) in the context of showing- I am aware that the GSDL is also trying to clarify things at this moment in time. To people purely interested in attending WUSV/FCI International Working Championships etc this has not in the past been a major issue- (and both GSDL and BAGSD now have WUSV approved SCH judges) but it is becoming one as a consequence of the concern of our members with duel interests. I hope the situation becomes clearer in the near future.
Anyway, best of luck with your event on 13th- I am sure you will enjoy.
Cheers Chris
by Penny on 27 November 2009 - 10:11
Hi Chris,
And to all - our event is not on 13th YOURS IS - glad you suffer from my disease sometimes, but needed that clarified in case people get dates wrong..
There is no doubt at all, that at the Koerung and other trials we are doing n 19/20/21st March 2010 that there is qualificiation for show people to be able to take up (providing their dog fulfils the criteria of course) and be recognised by SV on paper - thats why we are doing it. Alyson and Carol, during their seminar on 12th December, will go through the criteria, the tests and answer any questions, so it will be invaluable for folk just starting out, as well as for folk not wanting to take their dogs and leave on the continent, for say Leibenzeit if they are within the time scale of the requirements.
Glad you will try to get down here, and any other advice you can give me, I will be pleased to hear - Cheers Mo.
And to all - our event is not on 13th YOURS IS - glad you suffer from my disease sometimes, but needed that clarified in case people get dates wrong..
There is no doubt at all, that at the Koerung and other trials we are doing n 19/20/21st March 2010 that there is qualificiation for show people to be able to take up (providing their dog fulfils the criteria of course) and be recognised by SV on paper - thats why we are doing it. Alyson and Carol, during their seminar on 12th December, will go through the criteria, the tests and answer any questions, so it will be invaluable for folk just starting out, as well as for folk not wanting to take their dogs and leave on the continent, for say Leibenzeit if they are within the time scale of the requirements.
Glad you will try to get down here, and any other advice you can give me, I will be pleased to hear - Cheers Mo.
by Penny on 30 November 2009 - 10:11
Response to the above event is superb. Many thanks to all who are supporting. approx 10 places left.
Mo - Mascani.
Mo - Mascani.
by Jago on 01 December 2009 - 14:12
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by CAROL on 06 December 2009 - 11:12
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The seminar to explain about the koerung - requirements/procedure etc is on Sat 12th Dec, details above, please contact Mo if you want to attend, there is no charge but an idea of numbers are required.
The seminar to explain about the koerung - requirements/procedure etc is on Sat 12th Dec, details above, please contact Mo if you want to attend, there is no charge but an idea of numbers are required.
by Penny on 06 December 2009 - 12:12
Hi Again,
Response is good. If people wish for me to give directions I will - just let me know from what direction you are coming. 12 noon start, light refreshments will be available, RAFFLE is compulsory (joke but serious) and guidance with parking and some-one there to provide hot drinks in advance if people travel far and get tre from 11am. nice Loo`s on site - vednue warm and comfortable - kitchen on site - venue only 1 mile off main A.38 - village of Willington so small that EVERYONE asked once you are there will know where the village hall is. Anything I have forgotten please contact me still places left - mascani22@aol.com Mo.
Response is good. If people wish for me to give directions I will - just let me know from what direction you are coming. 12 noon start, light refreshments will be available, RAFFLE is compulsory (joke but serious) and guidance with parking and some-one there to provide hot drinks in advance if people travel far and get tre from 11am. nice Loo`s on site - vednue warm and comfortable - kitchen on site - venue only 1 mile off main A.38 - village of Willington so small that EVERYONE asked once you are there will know where the village hall is. Anything I have forgotten please contact me still places left - mascani22@aol.com Mo.
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