price of puppies - Page 1

OK I just read a an ad for "you can buy an "ultimate" puppy for $7500 and up!" and here on this site you read all the time if you don't pay "big" $$$$ you were looking for a deal and if it goes wrong while that what you get for buying cheap. So my question is two part 1st How does a breeder price a litter? what are taken in to get the price? (ie studding, cost of dogs and ect..) Second what is too low, or too high for a puppy.

thats sooo laughable! "you can buy an "ultimate" puppy for $7500 and up!" That's a total scam! Why would you pay that much for a an unproven 8 week old puppy when you can buy a already titled proven adult for that much? The last time I heard... VA parented puppies in germany cost between 600 to 900 Euros.. Dont expect to get that ELTIMATE" puppy because it came from VA Parents! The approperiate price for a puppy should be at $1500 in american dollars. Above that... are breeders trying to profit. The lowest price for a GSD between 200 to 500 dollars... this is what the backyard breeders charges...

oops ELTIMATE - ULTIMATE

And, also, on that site there are 12-13 "litters" available with two confirmed pregnant litters on the way and one projected litter. WOW...that is a LOT of puppies to sell. I, too, saw that listing and threw my eyebrows up. In my opinion, looking at how past progeny produced from sire and dam hold up to the standard, looking at the pedigree titles housed within the lineage, the level of health testing done on sire and dam and on the generations that make up the pedigree along with a firm "good report" and proof of good health and temperament on progeny produced from sire and dam is a good place to start to weigh in the amount one should charge for puppies produced. I don't think that $1500 is asking too much if the breeders have invested their dollars to assure that the breeding is being done with/to the highest standard. Lower amounts can attest to multiple compromises such as co-ownerships, breeder agreements and such that can be attached to contracts. Simply saying that this price is too low or this price is too high, is too simplistic. Look to why they are asking the amounts they are...if you deem them justifiable...so be it. As buyers it is our own responsibilities to know what to look for and know what to ask for when looking to purchase a puppy. Don't think that a high dollar dog guarantees a top "everything" and don't assume that a low dollar dog is oging to be the slim of the earth. Buyer Beware and learn "how" to purchase a good quality pet or show/breeding dog. Just my two cents worth.

The easiest thing in life is to sit back and criticize others. If someone has puppies priced as such, so be it. You have a choice: buy or do not buy. No point in all this talk. If it is so much of an issue, gp out and breed your own. I have never seen anyone hold a gun to someone's head to make them buy from them.

I personally have a hard time charging a great deal for our pups, We put alot into our dogs, My vet bill every month averages 500.00 and up, With vaccination, X-rays, Teeth Cleaning, and other maintenance, My feed bill on average per month is approx 400.00 and that's not counting supplements and vitamins, I buy lean burger, Rice, Bone Meal, Iron supplement, and good vitamins that's probably another 200.00 per month and we only charge from 800. to 1200. per pup and the difference is drive, more drive more money because we want the pup to go to working homes only, pet buyers just don't pay that much, nor should they in my opinion, We keep our prices reasonable so that anyone can buy a dog with super pedigrees and excellent temperaments and health, It's just how we do it not to say anything about anyone else heck if they can get that much well then I guess they caught the right buyer. Just my 2 cents for what it's worth.

Rikah - Haus I have a working litter coming next year and I was personally wanting to know how people price thier litter. I have starter puppies (dogs I keep back) and do all the simple obedience and paper work, x-rays and so forth and don't have a problem quoting a price due to I know how much I personally put in to each one at the age of 6 or12 months. But what is the normal cost for (let me be blunt) sperm and egg? How much does that cost. a normal 8 week old? I am not Criticizing anyone but tring to find out how one goes about pricing.

Rikah-haus We criticize those who whos profiting on LIFE... and using that money for their own personal use. and It's unfortunate that people still think that if they buy a dog for TOP price... that their going to get a TOP dog... just look at those dogs that people are selling for personal protection dog and have the nerve to ask 10,000 and up! I cannot STAND people scamming people for something thats not even worth the value... It is not right! People work hard for their money and they deserve what they pay for. and as far as your exact quote "go out and breed your own." This is the reason why theirs so many German shepherds including other breeds and mixes that are in shelters today... because people are telling other people to breed to see what it's like and such on... without educating them... I feel that if somebody truly wants to breed that they go to a responsible breeder and volunteer their time into to raising and to whelp a bitch thats in labor. EDUCATION goes first ;)

Brittany you go girl! I agree with spending the time with a breeder first and see what it is like. I have a couple people do that and they will never have a litter due to all the trouble and expense not to forget all the poop too LOL. I have always marked down my pets as I feel that they need that extra money to pay for the spay or nuetering. (Speically if a testie get hung up). This is my first time using a outside stud and my czech female. I do have some vet work put in to her and a good bit of training so I was looking to see how others price thiers to see if I was under or over.

Hello, i thoght this horse has been beaten to death by now....guess not ! 5000 $ for a pup is pretty outragous, at least thats my feeling. But then again, there is no obligation for anyone to buy at this price. Come on "profiting on life " as Britt puts it, is done every day a thousands times ! I can agree on the statement of educating the buyer, but then again shouldnt the buyer do his homework and BE educated BEFORE he decides to buy a pup ! Would you buy a car for instance without research how much it costs etc...? I am always astonished what is payed for a pup in the US. If a pup costs, lets say 300$, all sirens would go off one my side, because i know how much it costs to raise a litter properly. On top useually peopel seem not to appreciat as much when something that is low priced. The way i price my pups is the average price that is charged in my area.It does not matter to me if the the sire is "VA" or not, pricewise. One thing is for sure, if the sire or dame is "VA" you will sell your pups more easy. My objection is, to breed healthy and mentally sound dogs. Since i am a starter in breeding i figured i will make a " profit " around the "G -litter". Right now i am a happy camper if i do not put too much money on top ! A month ago i figured out how much i would have to charge for a pup if i would take everything in consideration. I came up with around 3500 €uros (3700$). The absulute killer was the time invested in a litter ! Even if you would just assume to get 6€uros an hour, man it adds up quick ! Not to speak of building kennels,Vet,Food,etc. ! Kind Regards Ulli Dresbach