Rubbing their nose in it .......!!!! - Page 1

I totally agree with you. I sold my pups already house trained and I had the proper conversation with all buyers, but as usual some of them did not listen well or someone else in their family, a neighbor or

some know it all so called trainer from I do not know where, would say   Oh no do this..rub their nose and swat them with a newpaper or throw a chain at them and scare the (&*(&*(* out of them when you see them pee or poop


Never in my born days has that done the job ..NO cattle prods needed either to potty train a puppy.

Thanks for your post. GOOD subject.

YR

I had Beau potty trained when he came home, he only ever did have 4 accidents in the house since I picked him up (omitting when he was deathly ill and couldn't help the vomiting and diarrhea). I picked him up as a puppy, just like most "puppy buyers" and the best advice I could give...

PATIENCE and CONSISTENCY. I had an Egg Timer in EVERY room of the house. Every 2 hours, he went out. Didn't matter if it was raining, snowing, blowling like Hurricane Gussy, as an owner, I dressed appropriately and took him out. On those scant times when he had an accident due to me not waking up, know who I punished? Not Beau...I know it wasn't HIS fault.

Potty training a puppy doesn't have to be the hellish event people make it out to be, but that being said, I AM home during the days, whereas someone who works during the day probably would have to get creative, and naturally understand and expect that in an 8hour span, puppies have to potty.

In short, you can read all the potty-training books you'd like but if you don't follow the advice IN the books, or you don't maintain consistency while training, you can't blame anyone when the training falls short of expectations.

I always assumed that it would be common sense that the nose rubbing wouldn't work. This is probably the topic that made me realize what we think is common sense is NOT.  That is also prob the question people ask me the most, especially when they have been doing it and of course the dog is not house trained and when they take it out it won't go potty but as soon as they take it inside it goes somewhere unspervised and goes.  They are totally shocked when I ask why they would expect the dog to go in front of them, the last time it did you shoved it's nose in it, smacked it and tossed it outside. Hell I wouldn't pee in front of you either.

yeah, and a lot of idiots still think a dog needs "room to run"........loose........as in run over.  grrrr.
pjp

 May i offer a different side of the "nose rub" in general for other animals- like cats....my sweet, loving, and absolutely gorgeous cat Oscar decided that dog pillow which is used at night by one of the dogs should no longer be used by a dog and so he would pee in it in the morning when she would get up to go outside, I could not figure out why dog would reluctantly use dog bed, and where the smell was coming from, i even thought maybe dog would pee on her own bed which made absolutely no sense at all....anyways, I am a clean freak so, it really ticked me off when i found out what was going on.... My cat who is VERY WELL taken care of has not 1 but 2 cat litter boxes one with "world’s best cat litter" corn base litter where he does #2, and Tidy Cat where he does #1...so there is absolutely no excuses for him to go on a dog bed, well one day i saw him squatting..being a "pro active pet owner" me I tried everything thinking that there is a cause and effect, so i had removed dog bed as soon as dog was up, but found out that if she got up at any time during night he would get on the bed and pee on it, he basically was dominating/claiming dog bed, i bought another dog bed which he did the same thing to when she laid in it, i placed foil and plastic under the dog bed cover to detour him, nothig worked....until I rubbed his whole face in his own pee before it soaked in....and left him pee smelling all day...we did that 2 times (i am sure he was testing to see if he can get away with it)...but ever since than no more bed peeing....so...even though it is NOT a puppy, it is not part of house breaking, face/nose rubbing iwas effective in these circumstances...on a personal note..i think dogs are a million times easier to live with than cats...so this may not even apply to the discussion as a whole...just thought i would give example in justification of nose rubbing and why I did it....and will do it again if it comes to it...

That's one PISSED off looking cat. 

LOL...yeap...30 pounds of pissiness...LOL..

Vixen, unfortunatley no, its cedar chips with a liner under the cover...and believe it or not this cat does not knead..i never seem him do it, even when u rub his butt some cats start curling their paws in kneading motion, this one does not do it...he just plops down and rolls over...he also likes his belly rubbed...which i think is odd for a cat...
I do agree 100% that puppies are not at the dominating stage to use their urine to mark...