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by phili on 21 August 2006 - 16:08
hello to everyone.
this days i saw some of the written comments of sudi and jackotto. this two guys are fighting for what perpose god knows.
jackotto passed comments that the redfeather's major is thirdclass male because there is a mistake in the pedigree of the dog. is this the language use in this gifted site to evryone in this world.
i have some nice gsds at my place in Belgium. but they are not titled. also came to know that this Jackotto is not from our country because we people hv respect for evry dog.
also ask sudi tht keep right pedigree on this site.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/465879.html
above given is the link to Redfeather's major what you think about this dog? Plz write in your comments so i can also come to know tht if this is thirdclass dog what we hv at us??

by Brittany on 21 August 2006 - 17:08
phili, why are you so surprise of seeing people fight within the same county?
why people of same country fights?
simple... if both parties are breeders... they will fight for the upper hand and for more busniess... Just like mating... Theirs 2 males wanting to get to the female in heat... so the 2 males will fight until the lowewst male go into submission with the upper male and then the upper male (The Alpha) will soon enjoy the life's most pleasurable thing by mating with the female in heat.

by ziegenfarm on 21 August 2006 - 18:08
unfortunately, this "attention" often backfires. even if a breeder, owner, handler or trainer is dead right and has a legitimate case against someone, it still does not bode well for their reputation to take these matters public. it just does not look very professional and many folks are leery of doing business with anyone who has been raked over the coals in public because they just don't know the whole story and are not willing to take a chance. this board and others have sadly been used for smear campaigns and what a pitty when it has potential for so much better. personal disputes need to stay that way and these boards should be used for constructive info sharing.
pjp
by Alabamak9 on 21 August 2006 - 18:08
Ditto Ziegenfarm!
by EchoMeadows on 21 August 2006 - 21:08
Constructive... What a KEY WORD ! I personally would like to see more people who use this site be able to accept Constructive Criticism without taking it as a "Bashing"
Pedigrees... Is pedigree everything ? I mean where did the first dogs come from then ?
Good dogs can come from unknown pedigrees too !!! I dare anyone to argue me that one. Sometimes the dogs for several generations are not shown due to lack of handlers as buyers, sometimes they are not in sch. maybe there was not a club near them, Just because they were not in the ring or not on the field does not mean they are Crap dogs !
I advertised for "Hard" buyers, and was received with snotty smurk saying "I thought you had something but when I saw your pedigree I see you just have crap"
(p.s. grandsire is 2x's world seiger)
I responded by saying "WOW if you can tell that already not even seeing them, then you are way better at this then I am"
I don't mind if someone says well that hurts you by having some misses in the pedigree with lazy people who just wanted money breeding these dogs, They would be correct in saying that. But to say my dogs are crap because of lazy people is BS and not constructive in any way, and does not hurt me, I have full intention of Titleing my dogs, I know what I see, I know what my trainers say, and I know I am stupid enough to simply look at pedigrees only I look at the individual dog, if they are correct in structure, sound of mind, and health, well then what more are to ask ?
Constructive.. and Ziegenfarm Well Put ! Bravo from me to you !
by EchoMeadows on 22 August 2006 - 00:08
Phili,
As for your dog, I looked at the photo and looks good, Dam's side of pedigree is pretty blank but the dogs look good. (maybe noone showed them why it's blank) Dog looks a little light in pattern, could be a little deeper in chest, Has Beautiful Croup, nice dark muzzle, good expression, nice stop, strait leg, Could have a little more wither, But hey NO dog is perfect and that's why we breed for improvements right.
Nice Dog, looks to me like you have done well with him, go with it, breed appropriate females to him and do what you wish to accomplish !!! First and foremost accomplish the goals you set for you and your dog and the heck with any nonsense ! Good Luck with him.
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