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Hi everyone, long time reader, first time poster!

I have been slowly starting to look around at breeders for when the time comes to get a new puppy. Can anyone tell me about vom Banach dogs? On their website it seems they have quite a few puppies that have gone on to be successful SAR and schutzhund dogs. While I am not looking to become super competitive in SchH, I would like to play around and maybe eventually do a local trial or something, so the pup I get should (ideally) have the drive for that. I guess I'm just looking to hear the positives/negatives, if there are any, of this kennel. PM's are fine.

Also, a few things in the contract bother me. 1: she doesn't guarantee hips if only one hip is dyplastic. Is this a common occurance with breeders? and 2) you have to have had the xray-s taken with the dog NOT under sedation/anesthetic. Only problem with that is that many vets can't or won't take x-rays unless the dog is sedated, some dogs (especially pups I would think) just won't hold still. I would think her being a vet tech would know this (not to sound too harsh).

Any other kennel recommendations would be great, too. Working lines only.

Thanks.

don't know much about them, but the contract thing seems really iffy. I have never heard of one hip guarentee? and being a vet tech myself, um no the last part sounds ridiculous. Try to roll your dog over, have it lay completely still, even support both sides, then pull outwards on both back legs. Most dogs won't just stay still for the perfect picture that the OFA needs. Iffy, I just don't trust that.

Have you talked to Julie over the phone and asked her about the contract?

They probably will accept a sedative;  one hip NO.  Sorry but I have seen some of the dogs in pics of course and they look nice and at some point you just have to take the plunge.


Do you know if they are checking for DM, eyes, thyroid, cardio, One hip only, what about elbows?  One elbow also?    Nan  ?Seems kind of obsolete to me.  But to each his own.  Best of luck  Nan

I sent you a PM, Darka. Check the upper right corner of your screen if you don't know where to read them. 

I have not talked to Julie over the phone. I would prefer to ask about a breeder and their dogs on a forum this large and then contact the breeder if it sounds like the type of kennel/dog that would suit me. I don't want to waste anyones time.

I was going to buy a pup from Julie - my only problem was I preferrred to buy locally.  Nothing against Julie, she was very helpful and knowledgeable.  I think she has nice dogs as well.  Good luck.

Hi, the problem is when you put dogs under anesthesia,there is considerable subluxation ( loosening of the joints ) which plays right into some unscrupulous vets to pull legs or move them out of sockets to make some money.......one hip : there is research proving that when is genetic,both hips will be bad,the gene doesn't affect just one hip, SO if there is just one bad, then is an accident that cause this. There are 2 vets in Miami that do it without anesthesia and are quite good, find others in your area..... The DM, Cardio, etc as far as I know, most of the positives,if not all, are American bred GSD's....Good luck....

Jdiaz1791, I don't think so.  My Czech girl OFA'd Good on one side, and mild dysplasia on the other side at 26 months of age. I got her when she was a puppy, and never had her jumping/running on hard ground till she was well over 1 year of age. She was also kept at a very lean weight.
In my view, genetics are for the most part responsible for the HD problems.
 

I don't think so either. An Amer female that we bought as a puppy years ago had 1 good hip and 1 mild hip per OFA. No injuries and not before we got her either. I knew her breeder well.