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by Jordan Riley on 21 October 2011 - 01:10
Just had a question about the BH is this considered a title??
by GSDguy08 on 21 October 2011 - 02:10
No
by Jordan Riley on 21 October 2011 - 02:10
Just making sure. I thought so the last time I checked.
Thank you
by BlackthornGSD on 21 October 2011 - 02:10
If it's not a title, what is it?
by GSDguy08 on 21 October 2011 - 02:10
by BlackthornGSD on 21 October 2011 - 03:10
That's all just playing with semantics.
It's not am accepted working title for purposes of breeding if you are registering according to SV regulations or USCA regulations. I don't think there is any registry/organization out there that requires a specific title for qualification for breeding that considers the BH sufficient for breeding.
To say it's not a "title" at all, however, you must be able to define what a title is and explain why something is not a title. And we must be able to label it as something else.
Here's how Wikipedia defines a title:
A title is a prefix or suffix added to someone's name to signify either veneration, an official position or a professional or academic qualification.
A BH is a suffix added to a name to indicate a qualification. Ergo, it's a title. Whether you consider it sufficient qualification for breeding a dog is an entirely different question.
However, in the U.S., if you are registering with AKC, you have no requirements whatsoever for breeding other than the parents be AKC registered.
USCA regulations read as follows:
4.1.1. Eligible for Breeding
Eligible for breeding are all dogs entered in the USA Breed Book (if the owner resides in the United States), who on the day of breeding have at least one performance title (SchH1-3, VPG1-3, IP1-3, or HGH) obtained under a USA-recognized performance judge, a breed show rating of at least “good” obtained under a USA-recognized breed judge in the youth, young dog, or working dog classif not already breed surveyed under USA or SV regulations, and a USA-recognized hip certification. 4.1.1. Eligible for Breeding
Eligible for breeding are all dogs entered in the USA Breed Book (if the owner resides in the United States), who on the day of breeding have at least one performance title (SchH1-3, VPG1-3, IP1-3, or HGH) obtained under a USA-recognized performance judge, a breed show rating of at least “good” obtained under a USA-recognized breed judge in the youth, young dog, or working dog classif not already breed surveyed under USA or SV regulations, and a USA-recognized hip certification.
http://germanshepherddog.com/regulations/breeding_regulations.htm
It's not am accepted working title for purposes of breeding if you are registering according to SV regulations or USCA regulations. I don't think there is any registry/organization out there that requires a specific title for qualification for breeding that considers the BH sufficient for breeding.
To say it's not a "title" at all, however, you must be able to define what a title is and explain why something is not a title. And we must be able to label it as something else.
Here's how Wikipedia defines a title:
A title is a prefix or suffix added to someone's name to signify either veneration, an official position or a professional or academic qualification.
A BH is a suffix added to a name to indicate a qualification. Ergo, it's a title. Whether you consider it sufficient qualification for breeding a dog is an entirely different question.
However, in the U.S., if you are registering with AKC, you have no requirements whatsoever for breeding other than the parents be AKC registered.
USCA regulations read as follows:
4.1.1. Eligible for Breeding
Eligible for breeding are all dogs entered in the USA Breed Book (if the owner resides in the United States), who on the day of breeding have at least one performance title (SchH1-3, VPG1-3, IP1-3, or HGH) obtained under a USA-recognized performance judge, a breed show rating of at least “good” obtained under a USA-recognized breed judge in the youth, young dog, or working dog classif not already breed surveyed under USA or SV regulations, and a USA-recognized hip certification. 4.1.1. Eligible for Breeding
Eligible for breeding are all dogs entered in the USA Breed Book (if the owner resides in the United States), who on the day of breeding have at least one performance title (SchH1-3, VPG1-3, IP1-3, or HGH) obtained under a USA-recognized performance judge, a breed show rating of at least “good” obtained under a USA-recognized breed judge in the youth, young dog, or working dog classif not already breed surveyed under USA or SV regulations, and a USA-recognized hip certification.
http://germanshepherddog.com/regulations/breeding_regulations.htm
by Duderino on 21 October 2011 - 04:10
A BH is a temperament test and is required before a dog can become eligible to attempt to achieve a title.
by Blitzen on 21 October 2011 - 12:10
I'm not sure where I saw/heard this so I can't provide documentation. A BH is a basic OB test that identifies whether or not the dog is trained/under handler control well enough to be ready to begin formal Sch training. I believe the BH is pass or fail; it is not scored.
The SV does not recognize it as a title and it cannot be used along with the dog's name at an SV trial or show. The GSDCA recognizes the BH as a title when awarding their PAM awards (Performance Award of Merit) to dogs that have attained titles in various venues. That PAM (a prefix) and the BH (a suffix) may be used along with the dog's name when being exhibited at an AKC specialty show and in advertising, but not at an all breed show. Confusing...................
The SV does not recognize it as a title and it cannot be used along with the dog's name at an SV trial or show. The GSDCA recognizes the BH as a title when awarding their PAM awards (Performance Award of Merit) to dogs that have attained titles in various venues. That PAM (a prefix) and the BH (a suffix) may be used along with the dog's name when being exhibited at an AKC specialty show and in advertising, but not at an all breed show. Confusing...................
by BlackthornGSD on 21 October 2011 - 13:10
It all depends on what you mean by a "title"--to the majority of people using the word, it is a title. It is a temperament test, but there is a significant obedience portion that must be passed. It does not qualify as a working title for breeding purposes according to the rules of the SV and those organizations that follow SV policies.
A BH is pass or fail and is not scored in the scorebook, but many judges will tell you your score. I've put BHs on 5 dogs.
A BH is pass or fail and is not scored in the scorebook, but many judges will tell you your score. I've put BHs on 5 dogs.
by Q Man on 21 October 2011 - 14:10
"BH" a title?...Of course it is...it's called the "Butt Head" title...Just not a Schh title...and you Can put it after your dog's name...to prove he/she IS a real "Butt Head"...
Hey Mr. Riley are you ready to do a "BH"?
Hey Mr. Riley are you ready to do a "BH"?
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