Bad vet practice???? - Page 1

     How in the world can a vet justify giving a little pup like this a totally un-necessary series of vaccinations, at 12 weeks old, after it is presented with the shot record, clearly stating the pup JUST received shots the DAY BEFORE? (and that was showing this to be the 3rd puppy shot already).
     And if that isn't enough, the pup was de-wormed, despite records to show a 3 day panacur treatment, 2 days prior!

     Wait, not done yet. AND a rabies vaccine on a 12 week old pup that does NOT go outside yet? 

Because they are a bunch of crooks and are working on commissions...try telling that to the new puppy buyer,they want the dog to live forever,but want to take the dog every year to these sales people.

  Hi, Did your record have the labels from the vaccines the breeder gave?Some vets believe that the breeders shots are out dated or just not done. I had a vet do that to my shep, needless to say I did not return .I'm a vet tech and my boss does honor the breeder shots but also tells the client that he is not responsibile if you decline the vaccs.Not all vets are out to ripoff the public  but remember when it comes to an emergency with your pet who you going to go to?Find a vet that you trust and get along with and ask questions lots of questions write them down.

Well, they probably did all of that because the owner allowed them to.  I believe in some states Rabies that early is actually the law, but I'd have to double check.

Not all vets are crooks, and some don't believe a breeder is capable of properly vaccinating or worming pups.  Not that I agree with them, considering I do that with my own pups.  But my vet also takes my word for it, one reason he's my vet.

At the end of the day though, the responsibility is on the owner who allowed the vet to do these things. 

     In this particular instance, I blame the vet for trying to jack up the prices.
The puppy records clearly state the vaccines given with the lot no. and expiration date. i just think it is totally wrong for the vet to give that many shots to a tiny pup.
    And yes, the owner is guilty, TO AN EXTENT! The vet is who is supposed to know better.

Never a reason to give a rabies vacc to a pup at 12 weeks. I had a friend who imported ta younger pup from Germany with a rabies vacc.  The pup developed generalized demodectic mange and had to be treated with ivomec and antibiotics.

I had a similar experience a few weeks ago with one of my pups.


The soon-to-be new owner (friend) wanted to fly the pup home with her.. and had a vet in a small town that she wanted to get the health certificate from..

I drove the pup to the small town.. she and I waited pretty much ALL day for the vet to be available..


Then I brought him in for his health check/certificate... told them to also please give him a Duramune 5-way vaccine, NO lepto, as this was a pup 10 weeks old. ( I was out of vaccine.. and he needed a second booster).

Tech preparing vaccine said "we don't have that one, just the one with lepto".

Told them politely,  "no, and please just mix it with sterile diluent", as the dry part of the vaccine was the same for both.

Before I blinked an eye, he (vet) vaccinated the 10 week pup with a 7-way, INCLUDING the lepto...


Then the kicker...  vet then says he will absolutely NOT sign off on a health certificate unless the pup has a RABIES shot as well!!


I scooped up that pup and took him right out to the car... it was NOT a pretty scene in that exam room!



Took pup to my regular vet later in the week, told him the story...  he just stood there shaking his head in disbelief!!

Said something to the effect.. "just give the client what they ask for!!"

And no, the small-town vet wasn't charging a lot at all...  it was simply a "how dare you challenge my authority".. type of situation.... 

DenWolf :
Whqt you have experienced is unforgivable


















 

In response to the original post, the veterinarian cannot rely on paperwork from a breeder or anywhere else. If the paperwork was from a veterinarian, then I don't understand revaccinating at all. If the veterinarian vaccinated the puppy it was because the owner allowed it. The owner could have said no to the vaccines because they were sure that the puppy was just vaccinated. Whatever paperwork the veterinarian saw was not enough to convince him or her that it was done. What would happen if the veterinarian didn't vaccinate the puppy and it became sick with parvo? Would the owner blame the breeder or the veterinarian? Most laws require rabies vaccines to be given at 12 weeks of age, so this was not inappropriate. A veterinarian cannot rely on the word of anyone that the puppy doesn't go outside. Who's to say it won't get out at some point? Also what happens when it does go out and comes back with a bite wound? It would be much better to have been vaccinated already. There is absolutely no reason to wait in a healthy puppy. The deworming two days after a panacur series makes my eyebrows raise, but maybe the puppy was dewormed with an improper dose of panacur. IDK. "bunch of crooks working on commissions". Very nice. Who is the one putting a dollar sign on their pet? The owner. Veterinarians recommend yearly visits to avoid problems and diagnose diseases before they become unmanageable. Veterinarians could work in other fields using their degrees and make more money and not have to deal with clients who are unappreciative for their efforts and complain about spending money on their pet. You have no idea how depressing it is to be a veterinarian. All we wanted was to go to school so we can help animals. The reality is that we are prevented from doing that because of the money that some people don't want to spend on their animals. The vet tech has the right idea. Her boss honors the vaccines, but he needs to be careful in documenting that he recommends having him vaccinate the puppy in case it becomes ill. Also a veterinarian cannot rely on records from another place when he or she is writing a health certificate. The veterinarian who does that could lose his or her license. Many breeders do know how to vaccinate and care for their animals properly, but how is a veterinarian going to know who those people are without meeting them and having first hand knowledge of it. The gsd puppy imported from Germany that developed generalized demodectic mange did so because it is an inherited condition. Period. The vaccine had nothing to do with it. That puppy may also pass on the mange to any of its offspring. I hope it was neutered. The puppy who became vaccinated with lepto: Lepto is indicated as a vaccine for puppies greater than 9 weeks of age. It is fine for an owner to decline it of course, but lepto is a disease that can be passed to humans and make them very ill. It is obvious that there was not enough planning in this case so that the staff were aware the owner did not want the puppy vaccinated for lepto, but if there was going to be a health certificate, then lepto is required unless the puppy had already had a reaction to it in the past. The dry part of the vaccine could have been reconstituted with saline. There would be no reason to vaccinate for rabies in a 10 week old puppy, though. The vet who made a ludricrous statement about "just give the client what they want" must have been joking a little. Otherwise the public wouldn't need veterinarians at all. You go to Burger King to tell them what you want. You go to a veterinarian to have them make recommendations which you are free to follow or not. It is sad that so many people are suspicious of veterinarians who are great people in general

I'm sorry to say this, but vaccination for lepto is NOT a requirement for a health certificate. It is a non core vaccine. I am lucky and have a really good relationship with my vet. He is
awesome and does not try to give me anything I don't need nor want. I vaccinate my own dogs and puppies in the past. He has always honored the vaccinations I have given for a
health certificate. Always. The airlines have never had a problem with the vaccinations or health certificates issued, and I probably have 20 or so dogs shipped thus far. Different states
have different rules as well. Down if FL the vets would not accept breeder given vaccinations for HC but here in NC they are allowed.

Melissa