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by Duderino on 08 September 2011 - 19:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc_uIORenlY&feature=related
This stuff amazes me more every year. I guess the handler was all excited because the freakin' dog just hung on. Couldn't have been the fact that she had to jerk his head up off of the ground 10 x's before she let him go for the "free heeling" of her "SchHIII" or the fact that he outed slow or broke down and gripped short on the long bite. Maybe she was just ecstatic because of the "help" she received from the back half helper who stopped and backed up and made a prey bite out of the long attack. I was looking forward to seeing the "Champion's" working results at the FCI Working Dog World Championships,,,,,,,,,oh, sorry he didn't qualify or maybe he just didn't even try. I guess that old cliche of "You've got to be in it to win it" applies or is it that after all of that running he was just too tired to make the trip?

by Brandi on 08 September 2011 - 19:09
Honestly, not that this is a great performance, it is by far not the worst I've ever seen. And actually thought it to be not so bad. For a show-line, this was acceptable, though acceptable is the key word. I didn't see too much corrections prior to the release. The dog just had a wee bit of prey and had a hard time controlling what he was so looking forward to doing...the bite. Also, we need to remember that EVERY dog has their good and bad days. We shouldn't gig a dog based on this performance. But this is just my opinion.
But who am I. LOL
But who am I. LOL
by Duderino on 08 September 2011 - 19:09
....and what prey would that be?? There was nothing in front of him, the helper was still in the blind. The "attack out of the blind" is not a "prey" exercise but a "defense" exercise, defend yourself from a blind attack. Having a "Bad Day" as you put it does not make you VA1 at a National Championship event, it kind of pushes you way down the line except the SV has completely lost sight of what the working Shepherd should be anymore. If you fill a lot of pockets, you win. Just watched a special the other day on the pursuit and capture/assassination of Osama Bin Laden where they showed clips of Cairo, the Malinois that helped with the effort, do you really think that the "Working Dogs" at this event could have performed the same duties? More often than not I see most showline dogs being lifted into the back of their vehicles because the front can make the 18 inch "leap" over the back bumper but the back end needs a boost. Somehow I'm thinking jumping in and out of and being lowered to the ground from a hovering helicopter is out of the question.

by VKGSDs on 08 September 2011 - 20:09
Preaching to the choir here.... My issue is not just the dogs' performance but the joke that the "test" has become. They keep saying they are going to rate the dogs more harshly, bla bla bla, and yet every year the heeling gets shorter, the long bite borderlines on a backup bite, the drive doesn't have stick hits.... There's no longer a reason for someone that actually HAS a nice dog to enter because the dogs that DO show nice work cannot be showcased at all.
by Duderino on 08 September 2011 - 20:09
Amen and Hallelujah,,,,let me hear 'ya,,can I get an AMEN?

by VKGSDs on 08 September 2011 - 20:09
I think at minimum to be in the "working class" the dog should be required to have obtained the title (or repeated it) at a regional event or higher within one year prior to the show.
Or, just get rid of the stupid test altogether because these are show dogs and it's a dog show....
Or, just get rid of the stupid test altogether because these are show dogs and it's a dog show....
by SitasMom on 08 September 2011 - 20:09
his grips were full......he did what was expected.......he won.....nuff said.
by Duderino on 08 September 2011 - 21:09
No, his long bite grip was not full. Putting blinders on and denying to a fault what you see does not help a failing breed. THE SIEGER SHOW AND THE PERFORMANCE OF THE SHOWLINE GSD AS A WORKING BREED HAVE BECOME A FARCE SO MUCH SO AS TO ALMOST BECOME A JOKE. (shown standing on a soapbox shaking my fist).
by lonewulf on 08 September 2011 - 21:09
I think at minimum to be in the "working class" the dog should be required to have obtained the title (or repeated it) at a regional event or higher within one year prior to the show.
Really!....... I am intrigued by this idea..... is it really possible to implement??..... Hmmmm
by Duderino on 08 September 2011 - 21:09
A similar philosophy is done for the "Cup of France" or Coupe de France in French Ring. Dogs must qualify (memory's a little foggy about particulars here) at 3 Selectifs (Regional Championships) with the scores averaged out for the top 30 to be eligible for the final event. And, I believe the last of these has to be somewhere in the range of 30 days from that scheduled final so no one can trial at the beginning of the year and then just have a seat until the final.
It's not the same but you understand the idea. Receiving a barely passing SchHIII score at 2 years old in a club trial shouldn't qualify you for life for further competition.
It's not the same but you understand the idea. Receiving a barely passing SchHIII score at 2 years old in a club trial shouldn't qualify you for life for further competition.
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