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von sprengkraft

by von sprengkraft on 12 August 2011 - 18:08


gagsd4

by gagsd4 on 12 August 2011 - 18:08

Isn't this the study that the SV was looking at last year at their judges' college?
--Mary

von sprengkraft

by von sprengkraft on 12 August 2011 - 19:08

Yes, it is.

isachev

by isachev on 12 August 2011 - 20:08

Very cool video, Sure make's them look fragile. LOL  It seems the elbow's are quite a cause for concern during early puppyhood development. Thanks for sharing that von. Take Care  Pete

TIG

by TIG on 13 August 2011 - 00:08

I have a problem with the statement below the video "The team found that during most movements, a dog's shoulder joints stay still"

Check out a dog's skeleton here  http://susangarrettdogagility.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Skeleton-from-Dog-Steps-1.jpg to refresh yourself on the position of the shoulder blade and shoulder joint. Then relook at video. It is clear that both the scapula and the joint DO move and that there is significant difference between the doxie and the sheepdog.

I much prefer the Dingo Haus Gero video with him gaiting for miles at a sustained trot along the road and then then went out with stereoscope and matched a skeleton view to the motion. Note especially how correct his front is and that he extends from the shoulder past the end of his nose. Compare that to so many of today's dogs who have what I call Heil Hitler fronts where they move from the elbow and then lift the front leg up to give the appearance of reach. This is very faulty yet so many people today think it is good front movement because they've never seen a truly correct dog move which is a thing of beauty and it makes it look effortless and like the dog is floating about two inches above the ground. ( suspension is another trait we are in great danger of losing)

By the way look at the front motion of the doxie and of Dingo. No way there is not a significant difference in motion. Yes the basics will be basics but each breed has chosen for a particular function, structure  and skeleton and it DOES affect the gait and motion.

by Ibrahim on 13 August 2011 - 00:08

TIG,

 that he extends from the shoulder past the end of his nose. Compare that to so many of today's dogs who have what I call Heil Hitler fronts where they move from the elbow and then lift the front leg up to give the appearance of reach


very interesting 

Ibrahim

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 13 August 2011 - 02:08

Yeah, Pete...where have you heard about protecting their ELBOWS during puppyhood...................................LOL


von sprengkraft

by von sprengkraft on 13 August 2011 - 15:08

Many breeds have different ways of moving.  GSDs double track....Belgians (all varieties) single track. Function of the body remains the same.

@Jen....You are correct about elbows.  We must all protect our young dogs, as their ability does not lend itself to their safety.  (The wild-ass critters they are!!)

isachev

by isachev on 13 August 2011 - 15:08

Yes Jen, Sure have, but I can't keep up with them at times. They move lickity split, and when you least expect it. Never seen so much agile like movement in any dog. Especially EZRA!!!   Pete

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 13 August 2011 - 16:08

I'm just giving you $h!+, Pete. I just had to laugh when I read what you said after watching the video. I know they're difficult, if not impossible, to prevent from doing that stuff, so that's why you just try to make it so they don't have the opportunity.

Back to the topic, there's a difference between what they do themselves, on occasion, and things they do repeatedly. I am not a coddler; I don't believe we should be breeding dogs so fragile they can't go upstairs! However, we have to keep in mind that our houses w/slippery floors are not a natural environment for growing bones, either, and we have to make some compromises. For example, I know keeping Furo from jumping on and off everything isn't really an option. That's simply who he is. SO, I keep him outside most of the time. He is free to exercise as he pleases; I don't force him and I don't restrain him. BUT- if he's inside, he's being quiet, in a platz, not jumping on and off of chairs, beds, etc. onto slippery hardwood floors. At least outside, he's got proper traction and is landing on soft grass.  If ever I have a question as to whether a dog should be doing something, I ask if a dog in a natural environment would do it and if the answer is yes, I let them.





 


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