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by wrestleman on 14 June 2011 - 14:06

Been battling this for 3 weeks vet says its from eating raccoon dung or dead raccoon. He gave her a few shots after finding it in her fecal Sent her home on 1000 units of Amoxicillin a day and some  anti diarrhea meds  She appeared to get better after first day eating again and after 5 days was  85 % better last 2 days not eating again and the bloody mucus stools are back. The vet suxs I think I am going to go else where but is Amoxicillin strong enough for clostridia

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 14 June 2011 - 14:06

It also often appears w/other nasty bugs, so there could be something else in there that's causing the recurrence. How did vet diagnose it in the first place? 

TingiesandTails

by TingiesandTails on 14 June 2011 - 15:06

I would suggest going to a holistic vet .

by wrestleman on 14 June 2011 - 15:06

He did it with blood test and stool samples . She is one sick bitch. This is a crazy balls to the wall in drive dog. but she is getting weaker and she scares me. This is one nasty bug. I am going to take in a new stool sample and see what it shows . The antibiotics worked for a few days then stopped. I hope there is a super strength Amoxicillin I can get.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 14 June 2011 - 15:06

That's normally found in a dog's digestive tract; only creates a problem when something else allows it to get out of control, typically. 

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/clostridium_perfringens.html

VKGSDs

by VKGSDs on 14 June 2011 - 16:06

A holistic vet for clostridium?

My friend's dog has had this 2-3 times.  I will ask what she treats it with...  I know that when he has it she keeps him home and is very careful about cleaning up his poop, otherwise it will spread or he will get it again from himself.

by wrestleman on 14 June 2011 - 16:06

Thanks for your help in advance. She is back on cheicken and rice and massive doses of Amoxicillon untill I find a better way

by LMH on 14 June 2011 - 16:06

Wrestleman----How much does she weigh?  The dosage for amoxicillin is 10 mg per pound every 12 to 24 hours depending on the severity of symptoms. First, confirm with yourself and us she's getting the proper amount of antibiotic.  Second, concern yourself with the basics.  Throw out all her food, and start from scratch.  It might be contaminated, or not. Don't debate this move.....even with yourself.  Keep new food in a cool place after having purchased it from an air conditioned store. (Likewise, keep the antibiotic in a cool place.)  Next clean up her stools and any other dog's immediately after they defecate. Don't allow her in any areas where she can reinfect herself from the racoons.

Call your vet.  If he's not concerned, find another one......but remember to first take care of the steps I outlined.  You might be doing this already making my advice somewhat mute, but better to question for the animal's well being.  Yes???  Good luck. (VK---I immediately thought the same thing about the basics----clean the poop.)

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 14 June 2011 - 16:06

NONONONO!!! DEAR GOD GET HER OFF THE AMOXIL  NOW!!

Read this:

Clostridium difficile is a gram-positive, anaerobic, spore-forming bacillus that is responsible for the development of antibiotic-associated diarrhea and colitis.

Most patients develop diarrhea during or shortly after starting antibiotics.

The chief risk factor for the disease is prior exposure to antibiotics
. The most common antibiotics implicated in C difficile colitis include cephalosporins (especially second and third generation), ampicillin/amoxicillin, and clindamycin. Less commonly implicated antibiotics are the macrolides (ie, erythromycin, clarithromycin, azithromycin) and other penicillins. 

 

The drugs of choice for treatment are metronidazole and vancomycin. However, the presence of blood in the stool shows she has developed psuedomembranous colitis, a LIFE THREATENING COMPLICATION!



I would IMMEDIATELY take her to another veterinary clinic to get help. Colitis can lead to perforation of the bowel and death from shock and septecemia!


Here's where I got my information:


http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/186458-overview


The article is written for medical professionals (I'm a retired R.N.) so you may not understand all of it. If you have questions, do not hesitate to PM me. 
 

 

VKGSDs

by VKGSDs on 14 June 2011 - 16:06

OK my friend said she treated her dog with a high dose of metronidazole/flagyl twice a day.  I knew that amox. did not sound familiar to me for treating this problem.  The metro/flagyl has worked for her.  I believe she gives 500mg each dose but don't quote me on that, talk to a vet.





 


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