
This is a placeholder text
Group text
by gsdlvr1 on 03 July 2006 - 04:07
On their STUDS page there is a picture of their male "Baron" and they have used that picture SEVERAL times, saying that is the "JECK GRANDSON". Well on Mittlewest's website, they have that picture also posted on their LITTERS page, as the dam's picture to the litter sired by VA Fabian... I find that rather strange. I wonder if she knows that she was not sent the correct picture for the dam...hmmm
They are also listing VA Fabian on their "OUR DOGS" page... giving no credit to the people who own him etc. I mean any normal person would figure out that VA Fabian is not theirs, but their "OUR DOGS" page is rather misleading.
"OUR DOGS"
http://www.tiptopwebsite.com/websites/index2.php?username=dachhaus&page=3
I also love the gorgeous stacked shots on their webpage... (oh wait there are none???)
I wish these puppy mills would just crawl back into the holes they crawled out of....
by Alabamak9 on 03 July 2006 - 07:07
What good does making fun of a kennel and posting it do for anyone. If you do not like their dogs or website, photos, dogs, etc. don't take your business there. There are a lot of novice breeders/kennels and some produce well. Breeding is trying to produce quality puppies and to develop a line within the breed they love. Are you a puppy mill by your own meaning. The puppy mill thing is over used here a puppy mill is random breeding of any two dogs reguardless of quality, temperament, health and very few backyard breeders would fit this description. Puppy mills are usually people who have ten breeds keep them in dirty unkept cages breed and sell to pet stores. Put some energy in to your program instead of negative comments about someone elses.

by Brittany on 03 July 2006 - 11:07
Alabamak9,
I do not think that gsdlvr1 is making fun of dach haus kennels. The concept for her/his posts is to point out that this breeder is misleading the potential costumers into believing that he owns VA Fabian (without having to list up the real owners) by adding him down under Our dogs page. I did email this breeder and he did confess that he doesnt own Fabian.
Perfect example.. Say that this breeder had a breeding with Zidane vom Haus Sevens.. Then he posts up on his website under my dogs Zidane picture. He doesnt list up your name as the actual owner. Would you become rather aggravated? I think this is the concept of this post.
As far as Puppy mills.. Theirs A LOT of them out there that a lot of us refuse to believe, some actually have titled German imports. IMO you do not need to drop off the puppies at pet stores to be a puppymills.
by Alabamak9 on 03 July 2006 - 13:07
Brittany,
Thre are many kennels who have my dog on their site and do not list AlabamaK9/MarleneWiggins as owner, it does not conern me I know were he is. There are ways to be constructive without the BEWARE type negative attitude people tend to use on this board. I do not know the kennel or poster but the attitdue is there.The post has the high school mentality the spelling, the listing, the dogs were not stacked, I called them and they knew nothing if you do not think that is harsh and cruel.
I owned Kanto Vom Firecatcher and he was on the stud dog page of Kraftwerk because he had imported females breed to him but I never felt the need to bash him. If someone had called him to use as stud he would have looked it up and found we owned him, not a big deal
If you had of went thru what I have on this board a few weeks ago you would see why I am so sensitive to the lableing and name calling.
A puppy mill is just what I stated. You could have twenty females and not be a puppy mill this is overused maybe you need to search "puppy Mill" and see what it is. Someone breeding not to your likes does not make them a puppy mill. There is nothing wrong with a backyard breeder everyone has started somewere from the biggest kennels in Europe and the ones here.
She could have helped the person if her knowledge was so superior, education in any form is positive everything I know and I certainely do not profess to know it all I learned from others and still do everyday. Most people who start a kennel whether they have top dogs or not has a common thread they love their dogs. I am sure today someone will tell this kennel Dachhaus to look at what is posted about them and it will upset them. Someone who may have or wanted to get a puppy from them may not now. If you need to downgrade others to promote what you are doing you must not be doing something right yourself.

by EKvonEarnhardt on 03 July 2006 - 14:07
As I am in limbo right now with my own dogs I find my self viewing many web sites. MANY and I mean MANY web sites are misleading now days and not because they did not post the name of a owner. It is for the buyer to looker closer and ask questions.
On this post things like this get way out of hand and good people get bashed. So they did not stack the dog I bet if you wrote them they would send a picture of him stacked to you.
As my grandfather said "he who lives in a glass house should not throw stones" (GSDLV1 I do not know you but every one has thier own mistakes that is why we are here on earth and not in Heaven!)
As far as puppy mills go, I seen low class where the dogs are in dirt and chained and the owners are making money hand over fist but then again I see concrete runs and nice fences too making money hand over fist same thing ("MONEY" is the seed of most evil).

by Brittany on 03 July 2006 - 14:07
Alabamak9,
So it doesnt bother you at all knowing that many kennels have Zidane under My dogs page without listing you as the primary owner? Sorry but I find that hard to believe that you would put-up with it. Im not arguing over the kennels poor quality website, the spelling, none stacked dogs, none pedigree provided, etc. Im arguing over the fact is that Fabian doesnt belong to the dachhaus kennel and should not have the right to list the dog under my dogs page. Its so confusing for the potential buyers who want to buy semen.
Im sorry to say this but youre not the only one that gets victimized on this board. If you search way back, I was also a victim. Being overly sensitive wont help things but to make them worse. In the dog world the last thing that you need is to be overly sensitive.
I do not need to search up Puppy Mills. I know exactly what a puppy mills is. I also have my own opinions, just like everybody else does. As far as owning 20 females.. I consider that puppy mills farm. I think its ridiculous owning that many females! How can the breeder give attention to those many females? I actually feel sorry for them since their locked up all day and all night without any human contact, well only if their about to go into heat or giving birth to a batch of puppies. Just volunteer yourself to be in solitary confident for a whole month. You would know exactly how theses poor dogs would feel; YES I believe that a dog has feelings, just like humans.
by Alabamak9 on 03 July 2006 - 15:07
Thre are three owners of dogs here I have three females myself and my partners have the rest between the two of them. They are all home rasied between us and treated like family. All kennels in Europe by your meaning of Puppy mills would be Karthago, Von Haus Sevens, and on and on, the meaning of puppy mill is a person breeding dogs without reguard to quality and health and temperament issues, animals sick and un cared for not the numbers. If I paid my bills on what the kennel brought in things would be turned off. I spend way more than what has come in which is the case with most kennels. Most people who have kennels just love doing it, having dogs, raising puppies.
Zidane is on so many websites here, Europe, Canada this is normal with him he had 37 breedings in Europe and 15 or so outside breedings here. I did not train Zidane nor make him the famous dog he is many people contributed to him, Jan Sevens the breeder, Johnny Degens the trainer, Gert his helper who trained with Johnny.
If you have suffered the same way then why be a party to this. I cannot stand the constant bashing of people here it is unaccecptable. If you have not personally witnessed that kennel doing the above then refrain from labing anyone a puppy mill just to make conversation.
Also if she does not own this dog Fabian why does she care to me it would be the owner of the dog right to question the website and to address this.
As far as not being sensitve because I am in the dog world, I will never get used to people being un kind to each other if I do then I shall become like them.
by D.H. on 03 July 2006 - 18:07
gsdlvr1 - your ad warning others of this breeder is totally out of line. And IMO should be removed asap! Because the ad does not have the benefit of having other opinions posted right by it. This post too is out of line.
If you don't like how they do business, then mind your own business and don't deal with them. You have no personal purchasing experience with them that you can base any statements on, other than possibly a phone call - and you know what, there are many others out there who are not well educated, and even many more who can just talk a good yarn and end up with just producing verbal fluff.
I do not know this breeder but this post is just very tasteless. Actually no, it does leave a bad taste in my mouth. This breeder is not even given a chance to learn, and you only learn about breeding by breeding.
Not everyone is a master webdesigner, or a great photographer, and everyone needs to start somewhere. None of the top breeders just went "poof" and appeared out of nowhere one day. I am sure that the owners of Fabian will not allow just any breeding, especially to a "puppy mill".
Your posts are very disrespectful to the breed, to the dogs involved, to the owners involved, and this board.
Any such statements coming from an anonymous source are just a wast of bandwidth anyways. Post your particulars if you have anything to say, keep what you have to say to something worthwhile, or keep your fingers off the nasty keys!
Contact information Disclaimer Privacy Statement Copyright Information Terms of Service Cookie policy ↑ Back to top