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by bpworks on 30 June 2006 - 17:06

Very good producer......

by LuvCzechDawgz on 30 June 2006 - 18:06

Curious how you know that BPWORKS? Do you have progeny from him or have you seen progeny from him?

by bpworks on 30 June 2006 - 20:06

luvczechdawgz, yes and yes.

by Xando on 01 July 2006 - 17:07

Glad to see someone is making a positive comment about Volan. I too agree that this is a very very nice dog. I hear he is producing very well. I hope to get a pup of his soon as I had a full brother to him.

by Alyeska GSD on 01 July 2006 - 21:07

I see lots of Volan pups, and they impress me no end. Call it bias, but I do know what I am seeing. I also get the reports from the owners of his pups and they are, without exception, thrilled. And yes, they are in both working and pet homes. I am pleased they have the balance to be in both. So, yeah, I am pretty pleased with him and think he has a lot to offer. But no, he is open for outside stud. Contrary to some popular beliefs, this has nothing to do with trying to "make all the money for myself" or whatever the strange thinking is out there. Half of the requests I have gotten to breed to him have been from American showline dogs, and the rest have been primarily from European showline dogs or even unpedigreed dogs. Sorry, but I won't bredd Volan that way. Few breeders with suitable females have ever even approached me to ask for breeding. Most don't want to ship to Alaska, and I DON'T BLAME THEM. I don't like shipping my bitches to strangers either. Even with good working bitches, though, I am just not going 2 hours one way to the airport(not to mention waiting, delays, and pickup time)to pick up someone else's valuable and beloved female and then have that potential liability on my hands. A female, sans owner, who maybe has never been away from home before, maybe has never flown before, maybe has never been bred before. And then I have to drive this potentially VERY unhappy and distressed bitch 45 minutes each way, back and forth, to the vets for progesterone testing, etc, etc, etc. Then I have to get help to handle the stud while I handle the bitch, and maybe a third person if she is unwilling, or more time at the vets for AI. I don't know about all of you other breeders but I don't have a staff working here. I don't have the time for all of that and it is just not worth the hassle. And if you charge an $800 dollar stud fee, everyone screams about it....so why bother? Of course, not many people ask $800 for a quality pup anymore, but no one wants to pay more than $400 for a stud fee. I hear lots of complaints about high stud fees, but bitch owners sure want a lot of service for their stud fee that they dont want to pay!! $400 would barely pay for the gas required for the whole endeavor, much less my time and the stress I would feel being responsible for anything that might happen to someone else's prized bitch. I live in ALASKA!! If this were Europe, where the breeder could drive here in a few hours and they handled all the driving and handling of their female, a nice working female suitable to Volan, that would be one thing. Especially since they would also be charging a lot less for the pups as well...maybe my dog's stud fee could actually BUY one of the pups my dog sired! But, no, this is not Europe, with tons of really nice working bitches just knocking at my door, short driving distances, reasonable fees all around, and all other amenities....this is America and most of the bitch owners are the goofballs down the street wanting to breed an American Showline bitch to "that pretty BLACK dog of yours." Gimme a break. I don't know why people always have to look for a negative motive for any and all breeders not wanting to stud out their dogs. Sometimes it really just IS a simple case of the costs involved and potential risks to my dog, in addition the burden of any liability for the bitch, just NOT being worth the $400 to (gasp) $800 we are allowed to ask for a stud fee without a stud owner looking like a money grubber. It is not worth it. Volan creates great pups here with my females, and that is what I bought him for, to be a stud for my own bitches. In that job he performs admirably, and that is enough for me.

by AKVeronica60 on 02 July 2006 - 06:07

Landis, you live in Willow, which is 71 miles from Anchorage. You make it sound like all of Alaska is inaccessible, LOL. All of Alaska is not polar bears and access by dog teams only. I live just 15 minutes from the International airport, myself, with many direct flights to major cities in the lower 48 states and other countries also. Though I admit it's convenient to keep the mystique going about Alaska...that way the secret of how nice it is here doesn't get out! And we all get PAID a yearly Permanent Dividend Fund ($900 per person last year) to live where we want to live anyway...it's a sweet deal.

by Alyeska GSD on 02 July 2006 - 17:07

I don't understand your point and how it pertains to my post, Veronica. This was a discussion about Volan, and I posted about him and my choices with him. I had several very good points in my post and you seem to have ignored all of them. Since I own Volan, I thought maybe I would DARE to chime in with my thoughts on my dog and my choices regarding him, as they have to do with the TOPIC AT HAND. I would certainly know that Alaska is an air hub, easy to ship into and out of. I even have that exact phrasing on my website. However, that was not my point in posting. I was talking about my dog and my choices. You don't seem to HAVE a point besides trying to make a good pitch for Alaskan air and road travel and attacking me. Your post has nothing to do with Volan. My post was on topic, as I was talking about my dog (the topic of this thread) and MY choices regarding breeding him.My main point was not that Alaska is inaccesable, since obviously it is not. I got my dogs here, didn't I? You are clearly attempting to start some kind of argument, even though I don't know you and I really don't care who you are, what you do or what your motivations are...even though I could hazard a guess. I did not mention Polar Bears, dog sleds, or the permanent fund in my post about Volan. You have manufactured issues I never brought up, and ignored all the points I did make about the differences between dog breeding in the US and dog breeding in Europe. Alaska was only mentioned because this state IS the most extreme example of the distances people have to send bitches (within the country itself) for breedings, as opposed to Europe and some parts of the lower 48. It was also mentioned because, well, I live here, so does Volan, and whether you agree with my choices or reasoning or not, this fact influences MY choices. You appear to have ignored my entire post except for the part of it you felt you could hang any kind of an argument on, no matter how petty. Talk about selective reading! I am not interested in discussing the permanent fund, dog mushing?? or Alaskan air transport. Having just spent a gruelling day on the road, at the vets, at a hotel and then at the airport at 4 am shipping two Volan pups to Mexico, I am burned out with talk or anything else having to do with airports and transportation of dogs. I do know a civil engineer who breeds dogs also and he LOVES to talk about these topics of yours endlessly. I can give you his number if you would like. I have things I would rather do with my time, like play with my pups and maybe get some rest.

by AKVeronica60 on 02 July 2006 - 18:07

Ahhh, keep your panties on! It was only meant as humorous for us Alaskans, and I thought you'd see it that way. You talk about how really difficult it was due to distance, being in Alaska, and such. I live here too, and everyone in Alaska knows how we get these inquiries as to how do we like lving in our igloos? LOL. I thought you'd chime in on how you liked to eat your polar bears or something, instead of getting upset. As for the civil engineer, sure, send me his number. Sounds like he is a funny guy. My hubby probably knows him, it seems like he knows almost everyone in engineering and electrical work in Alaska.

by prok9s on 02 July 2006 - 18:07

The topic is volan von der daelenberghutte, not Alaska, stay on topic, if you can't don't reply at all.

by AKVeronica60 on 02 July 2006 - 18:07

It's a free forum, and GSDs in Alaska is not an obscene nor unseemly subject. We can talk about Volan if you want, but do email me privately instead of using the forum.





 


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