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by EKvonEarnhardt on 29 June 2006 - 21:06

OK hit the wrong button here goes, It is said that you are to socailize your puppies between 9-18 weeks of age but how can you do that if your puppies do not have all thier shots? Also how long does it live in the ground? besides bleaching (done that) is there any thing else I should do? What about my next litter? Reason I ask is we have three puppies that we were socializing and had one shot to go and caught parvo.They have been in the vet for a week now and going to be coming home soon THANK GOD. But what happens NOW? Please help Thanks EK

by cherub on 29 June 2006 - 22:06

I am no expert but will share what I have read and just run it by your vet. Canine parvo is HIGHLY contagious and can be carried by adult dogs not even showing signs...as you have found, puppies are most susceptible. Chlorine bleach is most effective at 1 oz. to 1 Qt. H2o or 4 oz. to 1 gallon of H2o. The virus survives extreme temperature changes and will easily ive up to 5 or 6 months in the house or yard...up to 9 months with poor conditions. There is a 7 to 10 day exposure to outbreak timeframe and your pups should be isolated for at least a month after their full recovery. The virus can be carried in by hands, shoes, tires, other dogs etc. originating from infected feces. Do not leave dogs water/food bowls outside where infected birds may feed and infect. Dehydration is the big culprit and therefore sulfa drugs (which can contribute to dehydration) are usually avoided. You might try PARVAID which can help overcome the parvo...it's homeopathic and be found at www.ambertech.com (check w/your vet first). If the pups make it past the first 3to4 days their chance of survival rate increases dramatically. However, do you have another litter on the way? If so, have the females titer checked and, if lear, you might consider having her whelp the pups elsewhere. If you are just planning to breed, wait until the fulll timeframe has passed...it is a very stubborn virus. The cement, linoleum, cages, kennels, carpets etc. should be bleached out...grass area, even if you loose the grass. Since the virus is shed in the feces, pick up immediately and keep your yard immaculate...still spray as it can be from wild animals. When you take the pups home, speak to the vet about a bland diet ie Canine Prescriptives i/d. Re: Socialization...I keep my pups away from any heavy populated area and, until 2 weeks past final shots, remain EXTREMLY careful. I have a bedroom that is converted to their play room and they are introduced to wood, concrete, linoleum, tile etc. in the room They have classical music and animal planet rotated, children (comming from dog free homes) play within my home, as do adult males, females teenagers etc. After their initial shots, I cloro down a shopping cart (wait 10 min) and place my quilt in it. We walk thru the stores with people being asked to say hello but not touch. It is difficult and time consuming but very much worth the effort. i hope this has helped...Good Luck To You!!!

by cherub on 29 June 2006 - 22:06

Also: Any humans going in or out have them clorox feet/shoes and scrub.. I did not have parvo but still had people wear hospital gowns and gloves.. Also, do not wait thru 18 weeks to socialize, I start from birth...touch , sound, temp. surfaces etc. and people not exposed to dogs/dog traffic. Good Luck!

by DKiah on 29 June 2006 - 23:06

I'm sure your vet will have specific instructions for you - we always did.. pretty much what cherub said.. Have they always been your pups, born at your house??? Parvo can live for up to a year so best to err onthe side of caution as opposed to having another outbreak... Good luck

by EKvonEarnhardt on 30 June 2006 - 00:06

I have gotten back serval different answers on how long it can live One vet said 1-2 years but then another said 10 yrs. Friends in the dog world have said 1-5 years all ranging. We are getting ready to rip up the front yard and bleach the ground with pure bleach so it can kill anything still living. and then we will reseed. As far as the other litter we pulled everything cancelled all breeding. Since we were told it would be years before this would even be out of the ground I did not see the point in up keeping the web site and breeding program. Was I wrong for thinking that? I was not planning on a litter anythine soon but was thinking next year, but with 2-10 years that is a long time. I talk to the vet today and they have had numberous calls and had puppies in, one just died yesterday from this. So, I feel blessed that God is looking down on us. Thanks you everyone. This is what I like about this board all the great information (could do without all the BS)

by Sue-Ann on 30 June 2006 - 11:06

I am friends with a woman who breeds poodles and runs a humane society...she had a bad outbreak of parvo (brought in by one of the shelter dogs, yet they are kept in a different building). Because one can never truly eradicate parvo from the ground/dirt, another approach should be considered. What my friend ended up doing, was obviously thorough cleaning, but additionally vaccinations. Dams were vaccinated prior to breeding, and puppies vaccinated starting at 5 weeks. Maternal antibodies protect the pups for varying times, and actually block vaccines effectiveness...unless a correct vaccine is used. She uses Fort Dodge KF-11 parvo shot. It contains no other vaccine and is supposed to be the only parvo vaccine that can override maternal anitbodies and provide ready effectiveness. This is what worked for my friend...she finally stopped losing pups after countless litters were affected, one after another. 2nd example, a trainer who didn't believe in routine vaccines lost adult dogs to parvo. She tried digging up dirt and replacing it, several times, to no avail. She ended up pulling up stakes and moving to another location. Obviously you need to consult with your vet, but digging up the dirt isn't a practical solution. Good luck.

by shadowruss on 11 July 2007 - 23:07

I had an 8 week old puppy get Parvo 3 days after his 2nd set of shots. We ended up putting him down after 4 days of on and off treatment from the so called vet that we had no choice but to take him to because it was after hours. I have called so many places and the internet to find out how long it takes to get rid of it in the yard. I'm not worried about inside the house because we tore up the carpet and did major bleaching over and over. We have spent approx. $100.00 on bleach to spray the yard and we will continue to do that but no one has a definite answer. I have been told anywhere from 3 months to 5 years. I don't think any one really even knows. It is a chance we are taking no matter what. We are trying to find an older dog (at least 1 year old) this time.

by JenM66 on 11 July 2007 - 23:07

The office where I work, tells clients no dogs allowed for one year, bleach everything. Good luck.

by Shepherd Woman on 12 July 2007 - 00:07

I'll try to make this short! Here it goes. After hubby and I bought our house, I went to the shelter and adopted a pup. A boxer mix. Just 11 weeks old. Very active and happy at the shelter. On the way home from the shelter, he pooped in my car! Most GOD aweful smell I've ever smelled. I had to stop and almost got sick. I had my grandson come over and stay the night to help play with the puppy etc. to get the puppy use to us. He started going down hill later that evening. It was a Friday. I called my vet and they said to give him hamburger and rice and see if he will drink. He didn't do either. He crapped on my deck a few times, and twice in my house. I was up with this puppy all night. I called my vet first thing in the morning and they said bring him right in. Trent held the puppy all the way in. The vet came in the room and I told him what was going on. He looked at me and shook his head. Said well, we can check him, but I can tell you what it is. I said what? He said Parvo! I said what the heck is parvo?? I didn't know. He explained and told me that the puppy didn't have a chance. He said we would have to put it down because he didn't think that treatment would save it. I was very upset and so was Trent. 10 years old at the time! We went to the vet witha puppy and left without one! He wouldn't speak to me all the way home. Monday morning I showed up to the shelter and was very angry. I and spent a lot of money on this puppy before I even got it and now everything was infected! I told the officer what had happened and he was VERY rude. I told him that I wanted my money back, and the money that I had spent on the dog that I had to put down! He said no way in hell! I told him he just pissed of the wrong person. When I got out to my car, I called every local TV station around! The next day our nearest channel was at my house for a 2 hour interview, which ended up being a clip of 5 minutes, LOL. Any way, they went and interviewed him too and he was rude to them also. Any way, I went into my vet a few days later and their phones were ringing off the hook. The vet said wow did you stir things up lol. I said oh oh, sorry. He said noooo, it's a good thing. A lot of people didn't know about parvo until it aired on the news. So that was kewl, I guess. Any way, he said that we could get another dog as soon as we wanted but we had to bleach everything down and if the puppy didn't go in the lawn we were safe. He also said try to get a dog of 4 months or older that had had most of it's shots. We did and she did great. No problems what so ever. That was 7 years ago and now I have 4 all together. Good luck with it.

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