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Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 08 February 2011 - 22:02

So, a total idiot I know of allowed his Pit Bull puppy to be bred by a working line GSD. The GSD himself is not that big, but he has close close relatives that are right near 100lbs. She's not a big dog. I have no experience w/mutt breedings and/or oops litters (thank God, and common sense!) and am wondering about the potential for a problem delivering these pups if they should take after the sire side and be really big.

Am I begin paranoid? I suggested spaying her (which tells you what I think of this dog being bred and what I think of the owner, as you all know how I feel about spaying!) immediately and giving her away (he doesn't want her anymore if she can't have "babies" again).

Depending on the chances that she's able to have them w/out incident, I could certainly help place the pups but I'm really concerned about the size difference for such a young pup who has never whelped before. She is probably about 8 months old.  Anyone w/experience w/smaller female/larger male? And if so, by how much? 

Thanks. 

Ace952

by Ace952 on 08 February 2011 - 23:02

Oh we are talking about dogs...

Was about to give my experience with the ladies and what they said......

nevermind.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 08 February 2011 - 23:02

 Well, I had to do something to get you guys to open it;-) I thought Don might be able to help.

by BMartin on 08 February 2011 - 23:02

As to the first question, I don't know... I'm probably on the other end of the spectrum.  But the female will generally regulate the size of the puppies and with the broad head of a Pit anyway, there really shouldn't be any worries about a safe birth for the mother.  I would be worried about the common sense of both the owners of the dogs.  Unless he happens to own them both, then I suggest neutering him as well. 

OGBS

by OGBS on 08 February 2011 - 23:02

Maybe you could come up with some sort of cute "doodle" name, start a new "breed" and make a fortune.
How about, "Biglittledoodle"?

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 09 February 2011 - 00:02

 i didn't ask for opinions as to what to do with the GSD. The GSD owner is not remotely at fault. His dog was doing what his dog is supposed to do; he just got distracted by this tresspasser;-)  I do agree about neutering the owner of the Pit Bull. 

The point about the Pit head is a good one, actually. Thanks. I was so infuriated, I didn't even think of ANY positives about this situation. I'm going to look at her tomorrow and see if maybe she's not as small as I remember, which is probably the case. I had seen her several times over the summer and she was just a tot, but I'll be she's bigger and I am probably over-reacting. I cannot wrap my head around someone leaving their PUPPY IN HEAT unattended with access to males. The owner of the GSD was FURIOUS when he discovered her there. 

OGBS, that name sucks. Think up something better please. 60some days from now, I may need it. 

Niesia

by Niesia on 09 February 2011 - 00:02

If it would happen to me I would have my pregnant bitch Xrayed about 50th day after breeding to check the size and number of pups and see if they'll go through naturally or should I plan C-section... in advance...

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 09 February 2011 - 00:02

 Um, Niesia, great idea, but people who allow their Pit Bull puppies to wander loose and be bred by anything it comes across do not pay for c-sections. I suggested he spay her, to which he replied if she can't have "babies" anymore, he doesn't want her. He would just shoot her if complications occurred, which is why I'm looking into this now, in case I end up accidentally loading her up in my car next time I see her and forgetting to take her out before driving home. ;-)

Niesia

by Niesia on 09 February 2011 - 00:02

Jenni78,

In this kind of breeding I think anything can happen - the bitch is too young in my opinion for her instinct to kick in. She may panic, especially when the first puppy is big (as it's often happens anyway) and it takes her a long time to deliver him... If I would know the person, I would probably take the bitch home when the time comes. Difficult delivery it's easier on them when we are calm and they know they can count on us. The nervous owner often makes bitch so nervous that she cannot deliver even if she is physically and mentally able to. I know that what I just said may put a burden on you, but is it too late now to have the unwanted pregnancy aborted by the vet?
 


Niesia

by Niesia on 09 February 2011 - 00:02

I'm asking about the aborting because a mix of pit bull and working GSD can be a powerful mix, difficult to place in right homes...






 


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