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gsdshow

by gsdshow on 27 January 2011 - 17:01

Our club had a training accident this past weekend with a young dog 17 mo. Dutch / Mal mix.  He is a great dog.  He was doing an escape during protection and not quite sure what happend, we're not sure if when he hit the sleeve that his back leg went between the helpers legs or he got caught up in the leash anyways the dog broke his leg at the hock.   The dog made a small yip, grabed the sleeve and headed back to the handler with the sleeve on three legs, never made another peep. Has anyone had accidents like this while training?  The dog had surgery yesterday and all went well, they say he should be back to light training within 4 weeks and should be back to full steam by the end of May. 

Top view of Hock


Side view of Hock


After set


After Surgery 3 pins


 


by Duderino on 27 January 2011 - 21:01

Happened at the FMBB Championship a couple of years ago.  It's imperative that helpers/decoys learn how to work and catch dogs safely before they just buy a sleeve and a pair of scratch pants and run out on the field.

gsdshow

by gsdshow on 27 January 2011 - 21:01

Yes I understand, however this was a freak accident, the helper is very experienced and did nothing wrong. From what everyone who was out on the field say's the dogs leg got caught in the leash.

alboe2009

by alboe2009 on 27 January 2011 - 22:01

Was the leash looped/stitched (for a hand) on the end or not? Was that what the leg got wrapped up in? If not, stinks, but was probably a freak accident. He completed the task good boy and hope he's back in the future. Did anyone run video ?

gsdshow

by gsdshow on 27 January 2011 - 22:01

alboe2009 - the leash was looped at the end, I'm not sure from the witnesses on the field they just said he got caught in the leash.  He did complete the task and stayed happy the entire time.  He is a great dog.  Sorry it was at the end of training and no one had video of it.

alboe2009

by alboe2009 on 27 January 2011 - 23:01

There's such controversy over using leashes like that, just for that reason. (if that is what happened). It's a shame indeed but I'm sure he'll be back into it. Only time will tell, and I hope he's back to 100%. 

I personally have never seen a dog break something in training. I've seen plenty of times where a dog has hurt a human. On one ocassion a dog on the field, (bitework), I seen a dog come off the decoy and land on the ground wrong. (off balance, body hitting the ground) husband/wife were on that dog, "poor baby, oh, baby are you ok?" and then no more training for him. They didn't want him to get hurt! (funny).

I'm sure the owner knows and is aware; Like a million dollar athlete................. be patient, and doesn't matter how the dog acts, looks, energywise, or wants/tries etc. Don't push the healing process.

by Duderino on 28 January 2011 - 01:01

I seriously doubt that the dog broke his leg by getting caught in the leash.  Having a leg caught and scissored between a helper's legs can and has inflicted those types of injuries but a leash?  Maybe a sprain or ligament/cartilage issue, but not a break.

malndobe

by malndobe on 28 January 2011 - 04:01

A dog I co-owned broke a toe during training, we think she just stepped wrong going around a traffic cone (it's a French Ring technique).  She still bit, but was biting hopping on that leg, they out'd and recalled her and she limped on the way back.  Checked her over and you could hear the bone ends grinding when I tried to manipulate her toe, so off to the vet.

One of my girls shattered part of her jaw on a long bite at a Schutzhund fun match.  The helper was doing a weird angle/catch thing, I think to make big flashy catches?  I'm not 100% sure exactly what he did since it was dark and we were working under the lights.  But my girl hit him, slipped off the sleeve, then reattacked.  My normal helper was standing nearby and yelled at me "she fanged herself", the helper slipped the sleeve and she came back.  I started feeling around to see if she had fanged herself, and it was "weird" in there.  Got her into the light, her entire canine was hanging by a few threads of tissue.  Took her to the emergency vet, the entire socket and the area around it was shattered.  There was nothing to put the tooth back into, so they had to remove it, all the shattered bone, and stitch her up.

For those who haven't seen a dog skull, the majority of a canine is actually underneath the bone in the jaw, and makes up a lot of the support structure for the front of the jaw.  The maroon mark in the picture below outlines how deep the root of the tooth goes into the jaw.



The irony about this is that while I wasn't happy, I didn't hold it against the helper, things happen.  It's a contact sport, and sometimes the dogs get hurt, sometimes the decoys/helpers get hurt.  And then I got an email from him about a week later basically saying he had no responsibility for the accident, and it was my dogs fault it got hurt because it accelerated at the last moment into the bite.  Umm, isn't that what they are supposed to do?  In addition a couple of weeks later a friend saw him at a helper seminar, after the seminar giver watched him catch one dog they went out, stopped him, and told him if he continued to catch dogs like that one day he would break a dogs jaw.   To late.

I've seen other injuries over the years, broken toes, seriously jammed up dogs to the point of retirement, a broken tail, cruciate tear.  But most of the dogs go through their entire career with only minor injuries, other than arthritis that sets in as they get older from all the wear and tear.

Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 28 January 2011 - 05:01

I got locked in the porta-potty once. The bad thing was that it was after training and everyone had gone. Luckily I had a pocket full of cut up hot dogs in my pocket. I was lucky that the club met twice a week. I don't know if I would have survived a whole week.

by Duderino on 28 January 2011 - 05:01

That was no accident





 


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