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by Fordogs on 26 January 2011 - 21:01
I was wondering if anyone has had a dog that does not go into a defense very easy. The dog stands it ground, will bark at the decoy but just does not seem to get defensive very easy.
by Don Corleone on 26 January 2011 - 22:01
Yes, but he was blind and deaf
by Don Corleone on 26 January 2011 - 22:01
In all honesty, a video would be nice. By your description it is hard to read what is actually going on. Body posture, type of bark, and what does stands his ground mean to you? I've seen overly confident dogs that don't perceive the threat. High threshold? Who knows? Video would be nice.
Watched a Caucasian Ovcharcka stand there like nothing was going on. Saw that same dog try to eat through a fence to get at a stranger walking.
by Don Corleone on 26 January 2011 - 22:01
What kind of dog, what's the age, what type of training has it had so far, how long has it been in bitework, etc, etc.?
by Fordogs on 26 January 2011 - 22:01
I don't have any video's but all the helpers who work him say that he has a ton of courage, but just does not precieve the helper as a threat. His hair is not raised, his bark is soild and consistant. The helper was full frontal coming at him, the dog wagged his tail and barked like he was saying "come on, I know your not going to hurt me, so just give up the sleeve". He has a very calm, full grip on the sleeve.
Sorry he is a showline german shepherd, 2-1/2 yrs. training is schutzhund from 10 weeks of age.
Sorry he is a showline german shepherd, 2-1/2 yrs. training is schutzhund from 10 weeks of age.
by VKGSDs on 26 January 2011 - 23:01
I think the helper is also a big part of the equation, not just the dog. Is the helper actually presenting a threat? There is such a huge spectrum of helperwork. I don't mean to blame or question the helper since we can't see what's going on not all dogs will activate based on the equipment or having previously done bitework with that person. I think great helpers understand what to bring out in a dog, how to do it, and what type of "presence" the dog needs.
by desert dog on 26 January 2011 - 23:01
The first thing I would do is get a decoy that knows what he is doing. What would the hair up on his back tell you?.
by Q Man on 26 January 2011 - 23:01
There are a number of things to take into consideration...Such as the age of the dog and if he's ready to work in Defense...Then like was mentioned above...you must have a decoy that's experienced enough to know not only how to put your dog into Defense but to also know when...and then to know how far to go without pushing the dog to far...
So...Like a few shared above...You must evaluate your helper...
Are you new to Schutzhund? How much experience does your helper have in pushing a dog to the next level...
~Bob~
So...Like a few shared above...You must evaluate your helper...
Are you new to Schutzhund? How much experience does your helper have in pushing a dog to the next level...
~Bob~
by djc on 26 January 2011 - 23:01
That's really hard to determine over the internet. There is different body language dog's display that needs to be read by an expert.
Barking at a decoy can still be a fear orientated thing. Even being aggressive to a decoy can be fear motivated. BUT depending on the body language the dog is showing your dog could also be smart enough to know that the decoy is not a REAL threat. Only a visit with a good trainer will tell the tale.
Debby
Barking at a decoy can still be a fear orientated thing. Even being aggressive to a decoy can be fear motivated. BUT depending on the body language the dog is showing your dog could also be smart enough to know that the decoy is not a REAL threat. Only a visit with a good trainer will tell the tale.
Debby
by Don Corleone on 26 January 2011 - 23:01
Is this the only helper he has ever seen through all of the prey work?
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