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by vonHoss GSD on 24 January 2011 - 16:01

I sold a male puppy when it was 8 weeks old. I kept in touch with the buyer and always told the pup was doing great. For 8 months this puppy was fine. I saw the pup when he was 5 and 7 months old and he looked great and acted fine. When the puppy was about 8 months old the owner called me on a Friday and said the pup was sick and not acting normal. The owner said he was very lethargic, had trouble walkikng, and would not eat. I told the owner to take him to the vet immediately. On the next Monday the owner called again and said the puppy was still not doing well and that the pup was going to the vet at 1:00pm. I asked if had been taken on Friday as I suggested and was informed no. To make a long story short, the puppy finally got to the vet at 3:00pm (owner lives two blocks from the vet). The owner said the puppy had a 108 degree temp. He was placed in ice water at the vets office and the temp came down to 105. As a result passed away. Now the owner is claiming that the puppy died from a heredity or congenital disorder. Just some info. This was in August in the northeast. All the other puppies in this litter (10 others) are fine and doing very well, and will be one old in two days. I have spoken to the vet and have his opinion. No blood work was taken. Now I'd like your opinion.

by melba on 24 January 2011 - 16:01

No, I wouldn't replace nor refund. The puppy wasn't taken to the vet when he should have been, and they didn't have the common sense to even take his temp. Was a post mortem necropsy done? No blood work. Unless there is proof that it was genetic disorder, to me the owners killed their own dog by neglecting to take him to the vet when they first noted the problem. From what you stated, infection sounds likely, or mybe lyme disease, either of which can be treated.

Melissa

by TessJ10 on 24 January 2011 - 16:01

I'm so very sorry for the loss of this poor puppy.

My opinion is the puppy owner is full of crap. Poor pup. What congenital disorder causes a 108 degree fever?

My advice would be if the owner gives you grief, go directly to the veterinarian and ask his/her opinion, and you've already done that. Of course it could've been heatstroke. Guess it could've been other things, but I'm neither a doctor nor a tech. Poor pup. I'm very sorry.

Hope you share the vet's opinion.

by Nans gsd on 24 January 2011 - 16:01

Juvineile kidney failure would be my first thought; my friend with rottie's had one whole litter affected by the disease. Months and months of testing to find this out.

However, it could also have been something toxic that he/she got into and could be 1,000 more things; negligence comes to mind also as they did not run any blood tests (unless they did and are saying they did not) also negligence on the owners part.

Whatever happened, really sorry for the loss, very devastating to lose a puppy that young. so sorry.

by GSDNewbie on 24 January 2011 - 16:01

I grew up in the northeast and aug is prime parvo time. The temp and quickness of death also supports it and I think if you ask for vacination records they may not exist. I doubt it was a breeding issue but more a care one and the dog should have received care much quicker.

by Don Corleone on 24 January 2011 - 16:01

I'd give em a refund in person! And in a timely fashion.

by VonIsengard on 24 January 2011 - 18:01

Not eating, lethargic, trouble walking on Friday and did not see the vet for THREE DAYS?! These are very serious symptoms and that is gross negligence. I would be furious.

We had something like this happen to us a few years back, took our dog to the emergency vet that night and she barely made it. Cause was unknown, bloodwork pointed to toxic or infection. Nothing congentital, to my great relief.

Even with a necropsy it can be difficult in certain cases to pinpoint cause of death. I've been there, too.

by nonacona60 on 24 January 2011 - 18:01

I would be on the phone so quick to the vet, or if I had to, I would make an appointment and spend the $50.00 as it was an office visit to have the time I need for questioning him, to get the bottom of this...Depending on the vet's information, if was genetics, I would replace the puppy at my earliest convenience....If it was due to neglect on the owner's part, I don't think I would do any type of discount on anothr puppy, or replacement of the puppy.....JMO...

by vonHoss GSD on 24 January 2011 - 19:01

Ok the vet confirmed it was not genetics even no blood work was taken or autopsy was performed. The owner of the puppy asked the vet for a certificate stating the puppy died of a genetic disorder and the vet refused to supply this. This owner is now asking for a refund and threatened legal action if I refuse referring to the Lemon Law Act.

by melba on 24 January 2011 - 19:01

Lemon laws only cover genetic disorders. You owe them nothing and have their vet to back you up.

I am very sorry for the loss of the puppy but feel that nitwit people such as these shouldn't own animals, period. Could you get something from the vet stating it was not genetic?

CYA with documentation.

Melissa

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