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nonacona60

by nonacona60 on 22 January 2011 - 03:01

Would you ever deliberately breed your btich to two different males hoping to get puppies from both, in one litter?  This person did say that all puppiess will be  DNA'd to determine which sire produced which puppies..... I guess anything is possible...

dAWgESOME

by dAWgESOME on 22 January 2011 - 03:01

sure - I don't have any plans to do it but if under the right circustances I would (for instance super producer bitch who is having her last litter)

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 22 January 2011 - 03:01

I have 3 different sperms frozen, incase I wanna AI my Mal. If I ever do, it will be the 3, a vile a piece the first time. Just saying.

by gucci on 22 January 2011 - 03:01

no, Nona, not on purpose. Never. Lida

lovejags

by lovejags on 22 January 2011 - 03:01

 No I would not!!

malndobe

by malndobe on 22 January 2011 - 03:01

Sure.

I did a dual sired litter about 2 years ago. I did it for a number of reasons, 2 litters for the "price" of one in terms of wear/tear on the female and down time from training but also because I thought it would be an interesting blind study on what the two males produced. It's interesting to evaluate pups when you aren't sure who was sired by who, so there is no bias in terms of traits. I got lucky and my litter was half and half on the sires. And I was only about half and half on accuracy of guessing who was sired by each male.  I know someone else who planned to do it because they had leased the bitch for just 1 litter, and really wanted to breed her to two different males.   I could also see doing it if you had a female who was getting up there, who you felt should only be bred 1 more time but you wanted to breed her to more than one male.

It's not cheap, with the DNA, extra registration expenses, etc so it's not something I think people get into just on a whim.

The down sides of this type of breeding was the timing of the DNA results, the pups were 8 weeks and ready to go to their new homes, but I still didn't have the DNA results back from AKC. And I had swabbed and mailed them off when the pups were 3 days old. Most of my homes didn't care which sire their pup was from, but a couple were hoping to get a pup from a specific sire so it threw a wrench in things. It also added a lot to the overall cost, I believe the DNA, extra registration fees, etc was about 600.00. But I would do it again, in the right circumstances.

To keep the pups straight, I assigned each sire's pups a different litter letter.

R Litter - http://www.dantero.com/litters.php?id=31
Q Litter - http://www.dantero.com/litters.php?id=32

Also the results of the DNA tests  are at http://www.dantero.com/qr.php , and how the decision was made regarding the sire of each pup.

Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 22 January 2011 - 03:01

Nah. I don't want my bitch to get a bad rep with the other dogs in the neighborhood. Honestly, I doubt it.

nonacona60

by nonacona60 on 22 January 2011 - 04:01

I'm not saying its wrong, or right, but I would never do it....As I always say, it is whatever works for each person.....I was on another forum and saw someone had done it was an American Showline breeding....It will be the bitch's last breeding.....I know this sort of thing happens all the time by accident, but I never even thought people did it deliberately......But in reality, I guess it is no worse than if it does happen by accident, as long as the ethical thing is done, and that is DNA....That breeder will definitely be doing DNA......I just would never do it.....JMO

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 22 January 2011 - 04:01

Hummm I think my Mal would love the wildlife attention.

by tarekallam on 22 January 2011 - 17:01

One of my females which is currently pregnant  was bred accidentally by 2 different males. My assistant who does the cleaning of the kennel tied the undesired male thinking that this way the male would not be able to reach the female, however he did not know that she can reach him. She went near by the male & she stood & raised her tail & the male -----  and you know the rest.. It was too late for my assistant to do anything when he discovered the incident.

I am waiting to see the result & I will let you know. Bearing in mind that she was bred to the desired male 3 times & to undesired one only once.

Hi Nona- Hope you are fine. Is there any further good jokes to your good friend Tarek Allam..







 


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