E Collar Training - Page 1

I know a guy in il who says he has to put an e collar on his 7-8 month old pup because he says his pup dont
come back when called.Instead of useing food and or tug to get the pups attention he will zap this young pup...He now says that his dog comes back to him and said look he comes back.And i tell him that i would come back if you zapped me tooo..I feel the owner of this pup and the pup itself do not have a good bond.Any suggestons for this novice trainer...P.S the owner of this pup thinks he is a dog trainer and this is his first pup

Some trainers do use an E-Collar for everything...from the very beginning...to train Basic Obedience...But with that said...It sounds like this guy already knows it all and wouldn't listen to anyone anyhow...So he wouldn't accept any help...

I have used an ecollar on a very sensitive hound dog from the very beginning to the very end of obedience, tricks etc... I also used a clicker to first shape desired behaviors. ( This dog was beside himself for food, as most hounds are :)

For Roscoe, who had been abused, the slightest hand movement would send him to the ground peeing on himself. With a good e-collar set on the very lowest setting ( I could not feel the correction when applied to myself first) I taught that dog everything. He turned out to be one of the best dogs I have ever had. He had the most amazing recall, especially for a hound dog! The e-collar was never used as punishment. For Roscoe, the gentlest method WAS the ecollar and he was as soft a dog as they come. A flat collar correction was too much for him but the tiniest correction from the e-collar was perfect.

Any tool can be abused. That guy sounds like a jerk. I'd like to light his @ss up one good time with an e-collar.

Melissa

With Roscoe, at the end of training he did not use an ecollar. It was a tool just the same as a leash and he was happy and excited to have it on just the same as my house dogs are excited when I bring out the pinch. The don't associate the pinch with negative things and Roscoe didn't associate the ecollar with negative things. The tools mean treats, balls and bike rides.

I wish I had video but Roscoe has been gone for a long time.

Roscoe was the only dog that I have used an e collar on exclusively for training. It still took a good 6 months ( you know how hound dogs are) for training, which doesn't seem like a short amount of time to get what I wanted accomplished.

People use all kinds of tools a a crutch. What is the difference between a dog that misbehaves without the pinch, or someone who only takes the pinch off right before a trial and crosses their fingers, K9 handlers that trick their dogs into thinking they are wearing an e collar ( I know it's been done) by tightening a flat collar where the ecollar would go.

It's a tool and nothing more. Used properly and not abused it can be an awesome tool just like any other.

.02

Melissa