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by Wahrheit on 28 December 2010 - 17:12
Take a look at this link:
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/classifieds/112137.html
www.familydobes.com
I just saw this ad. I hope this Steve at FamilyDobes is someone who knows the law in their state. In my area this kind of action would be illegal. Further, there surely are better ways to recover cost rather than simply hold a dog hostage. This hostage taker is someone I would never do business with.....
The person selling someone else's dog is Steve at FamilyDobes......
I would also warn anyone from purchasing said dog. You will likely end up with a dog, and a court date trying to get paperwork, and/or the real owner trying to get the dog back.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/classifieds/112137.html
www.familydobes.com
I just saw this ad. I hope this Steve at FamilyDobes is someone who knows the law in their state. In my area this kind of action would be illegal. Further, there surely are better ways to recover cost rather than simply hold a dog hostage. This hostage taker is someone I would never do business with.....
The person selling someone else's dog is Steve at FamilyDobes......
I would also warn anyone from purchasing said dog. You will likely end up with a dog, and a court date trying to get paperwork, and/or the real owner trying to get the dog back.
by TessJ10 on 28 December 2010 - 17:12
This could also be perfectly legal.
In addition, the dog's owner could've said they weren't going to come get him and then signed him over to the seller, so the seller is now able to transfer the AKC registration to anyone who buys this dog.
I've seen this done a number of times at boarding stables - it's not difficult for the barn owner to get ownership of a horse in lieu of unpaid bills, entitling the barn owner to recoup some of the lost money by selling the horse.
In addition, the dog's owner could've said they weren't going to come get him and then signed him over to the seller, so the seller is now able to transfer the AKC registration to anyone who buys this dog.
I've seen this done a number of times at boarding stables - it's not difficult for the barn owner to get ownership of a horse in lieu of unpaid bills, entitling the barn owner to recoup some of the lost money by selling the horse.
by Ace952 on 28 December 2010 - 18:12
I agree with you Tess....
It all depends on the laws of your state. We don't know the whole story and with this guy being up front in the ad I am sure if you ask him he can tell you what the story is. He could of not said anything about it at all.
Before you jump to conclusions how about shooting them a email first?
It all depends on the laws of your state. We don't know the whole story and with this guy being up front in the ad I am sure if you ask him he can tell you what the story is. He could of not said anything about it at all.
Before you jump to conclusions how about shooting them a email first?
by LadyFrost on 28 December 2010 - 18:12
I bet owner is also charged for Photo Shop job on this dog in the ad too....
by hodie on 28 December 2010 - 18:12
You could be correct too Tess, but I would make sure that I knew the situation from both parties........I personally cannot imagine selling someone else's dog regardless.....
by TessJ10 on 28 December 2010 - 18:12
What would you do instead?
I don't know what training costs - let's say $800/month. So you've had a dog for 3 months say, and the owner isn't paying. You insist on payment and the owner says, nope, not gonna pay. Would you just give him his dog back?
Or say the owner says, no, I'm not interested any more; I can't or won't pay, you can keep the dog, I'll even sign over the papers to you and we're quits. (I can easily see this happening).
So would you then keep the dog forever? What would you do with it?
I don't know what training costs - let's say $800/month. So you've had a dog for 3 months say, and the owner isn't paying. You insist on payment and the owner says, nope, not gonna pay. Would you just give him his dog back?
Or say the owner says, no, I'm not interested any more; I can't or won't pay, you can keep the dog, I'll even sign over the papers to you and we're quits. (I can easily see this happening).
So would you then keep the dog forever? What would you do with it?
by Jenni78 on 28 December 2010 - 18:12
If the owner signed it over to me (willingly) I may sell it, but otherwise, as unfortunate as it would be for me, I can't penalize the dog by ripping it from it's owner, and I would give it back. If it's a dispute between humans, and the person wants their dog back and loves the dog, I just don't think it's right (mostly to the dog) to sell it. I know, I know...I suck at business.
by TessJ10 on 28 December 2010 - 18:12
I see your point, but "ripping it from it's owner"? I dunno about that. I can easily see the dog finding a better & happier home than someone who dumped it at a trainer's and wouldn't pay its bill.
by Bob McKown on 28 December 2010 - 18:12
Seems alot of that going on here latley. In the end the dog ends up as barter and always pays the price.
by Jenni78 on 28 December 2010 - 18:12
Tess, I'm assuming there are 2 sides to the story; for all we know, the owner of the dog may have an excellent reason for not paying. Probably not, but it happens, and why should the poor dog pay? I'd hate to be in a dispute and have my dog held hostage. I'd pay regardless, even if I disagreed, just to get my dog back, but who knows what the real story is here?
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