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by Manjeet Kumar on 27 December 2010 - 15:12
I think, May be , its true that show line german shepherds are not enough for police and army work so working line german shepherds are getting more job in Police and Army thesedays.. But is it true that show line german shepherds are enough for protection and guarding family or home ?
Please all you german shepherd lovers, let me know... Are show line German shepherds enough for guarding family/ home and patrolling their territory ?
by Nans gsd on 27 December 2010 - 15:12
Yes I believe they can do the job as it is natural and instinctive with them; you can not take away or ruin natural instinct.
by SitasMom on 27 December 2010 - 15:12
It depends on the dog specific dog. Whether working line or show line - some can and some cannot.
Hanny ripped through her crate and stopped an intruder at my door when I was away, and then did a wonderful bark and hold - standing guard at the doorway not leaving the house eventhough the door was open.
My neighbors gave a me a full account of everything that happened. They called the police, who called animal control. I came home to a surprise! I walked up and put a collar and leash on her, petted her and told her to relax, then brought her out to meet everyone.......She was as happy to be off guard and ready to socialize and hob knob with everyone - tail happily wagging.
She's a VA rated Showline from the Czech Republic.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/pedigree/578703.html
Hanny ripped through her crate and stopped an intruder at my door when I was away, and then did a wonderful bark and hold - standing guard at the doorway not leaving the house eventhough the door was open.
My neighbors gave a me a full account of everything that happened. They called the police, who called animal control. I came home to a surprise! I walked up and put a collar and leash on her, petted her and told her to relax, then brought her out to meet everyone.......She was as happy to be off guard and ready to socialize and hob knob with everyone - tail happily wagging.
She's a VA rated Showline from the Czech Republic.
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/pedigree/578703.html
by Manjeet Kumar on 27 December 2010 - 16:12
@Nans I think, i understand your point.
by Manjeet Kumar on 27 December 2010 - 16:12
@SitasMom yeah.. Your point is valid. It depends on a specific dog but yet your gsd will try to protect you as he/she loves you and cant see you getting harmed or hurt.
oh wow.. Your gsd is a show line gsd and did such awesome guarding when need arised.
Is your gsd trained one ?
by Felloffher on 27 December 2010 - 16:12
Manjeet,
Relying on an untrained dog regardless of breed or line isn't a good idea. Natural instinct is good, but without training or testing you have no way of knowing how the dog will react in certain situations and if it will actually protect you or your family during a crisis.
Do your research, look at the dogs carefully and be prepared to test them. I would only purchase dogs from breeders or vendors that train the type of dog your looking for. Also, just because a dog has a Schutzhund title and will bite the sleeve, it doesn't automatically transfer over into protection work in the real world.
Good luck
Relying on an untrained dog regardless of breed or line isn't a good idea. Natural instinct is good, but without training or testing you have no way of knowing how the dog will react in certain situations and if it will actually protect you or your family during a crisis.
Do your research, look at the dogs carefully and be prepared to test them. I would only purchase dogs from breeders or vendors that train the type of dog your looking for. Also, just because a dog has a Schutzhund title and will bite the sleeve, it doesn't automatically transfer over into protection work in the real world.
Good luck
by Manjeet Kumar on 27 December 2010 - 17:12
@felloffher
I agree with you.
Just want to know.. Can a show line gsd be trained to protect family and patrol the territory ? Or show line gsds are crap and even for protecting family and patrolling home, we need to have working line gsd.
by SitasMom on 27 December 2010 - 17:12
Manjeet Kumar - Yes, she is IPO 3
Hanny has been trained in sport and to protect, she is confident (very improtant), and has a very even temperament (even more important) and she was socialized to everything. When I tell her to guard she does, when I tell her go relax she does. There is no guess work. She does what I say.
I work obedience with her every day and we do bitework once a week. She doesn't have a perfect show heel, but that's OK - she's retired. Every handler she's ever worked on has commented that her grip is amazing! Solid, strong, deep and calm. When I tell her to "out" she does. Its hard to find such a good dog!
We had the whole family over for Christmas and she played happily with the children whose ages ranged from 18 months to 13 years. She even got along with my step son's 10 yo lab who came along for the party.
Without the training she wouldn't be as realiable........... no dog would. Just becasue a dog has protection instint doesn't mean it's a protection dog.
What if your kid's playing rough and tumble in the yard with a neighbor's kid?
What would a trained dog do?
What would an untrained dog do?
Hanny has been trained in sport and to protect, she is confident (very improtant), and has a very even temperament (even more important) and she was socialized to everything. When I tell her to guard she does, when I tell her go relax she does. There is no guess work. She does what I say.
I work obedience with her every day and we do bitework once a week. She doesn't have a perfect show heel, but that's OK - she's retired. Every handler she's ever worked on has commented that her grip is amazing! Solid, strong, deep and calm. When I tell her to "out" she does. Its hard to find such a good dog!
We had the whole family over for Christmas and she played happily with the children whose ages ranged from 18 months to 13 years. She even got along with my step son's 10 yo lab who came along for the party.
Without the training she wouldn't be as realiable........... no dog would. Just becasue a dog has protection instint doesn't mean it's a protection dog.
What if your kid's playing rough and tumble in the yard with a neighbor's kid?
What would a trained dog do?
What would an untrained dog do?
by Felloffher on 27 December 2010 - 17:12
You will be able to find show lines that can do the work, it just might take more effort to find one. My preference is working lines and I would select one for this type of work.
by VonIsengard on 27 December 2010 - 17:12
Many showlines are extremely protective and I don't know who you've been talking to about K9, but where I live we have plenty of VERY GOOD showline K9s.
You have to decide what you want in a dog, and seek out a breeder whose goals match your needs, whichever line you choose.
You have to decide what you want in a dog, and seek out a breeder whose goals match your needs, whichever line you choose.
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