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by jamesfountain98 on 27 December 2010 - 04:12
About a month ago I posted a message about my dog (15 month GSD) being diagnosed by a vet with demodetic mange. she was missing hair right above a quarter in diameter above her eye and bleeding in the area. The vet wanted to give her a dip and an ivermectin protocol. Either 1.5 cc subcutaniously weekly or .5 cc orally daily for an estimated amount of time from a month or longer (she weighs 60lbs). Costing $30 each treatment if you let the vet adminster it. (the exact same ivermectin you can purchase from the local feed store)
I didn't like that high level of ivermectin so I talked to several other vets and did some internet research. I talked to about 10 different vets and 8 of them treated demodex with relatively the same protocol using ivermectin and dips. With ranging time spans of 1-6 months of treatment.
2 vets recommended a different protocol using a monthly flea/tick spot product called promeris ($30/3months)This method seemed a lot less invasive. But one vet suggested that I not use the promeris product until the following month since my dog was already on advantix flea/tick. but in the mean time recommended I used a product called goodwinol ointment ($6} and a virbac flea/tick collar ($10 for 3 months)
I have not gone for another skin sraping to check for the mites but today my dogs hair is fully grown back and no more scabs or bleeding. I did not have to use the promeris but I do continue to keep the virbac collar on her.
hope this post saves somebody some money, time, and overal peace of mind
I didn't like that high level of ivermectin so I talked to several other vets and did some internet research. I talked to about 10 different vets and 8 of them treated demodex with relatively the same protocol using ivermectin and dips. With ranging time spans of 1-6 months of treatment.
2 vets recommended a different protocol using a monthly flea/tick spot product called promeris ($30/3months)This method seemed a lot less invasive. But one vet suggested that I not use the promeris product until the following month since my dog was already on advantix flea/tick. but in the mean time recommended I used a product called goodwinol ointment ($6} and a virbac flea/tick collar ($10 for 3 months)
I have not gone for another skin sraping to check for the mites but today my dogs hair is fully grown back and no more scabs or bleeding. I did not have to use the promeris but I do continue to keep the virbac collar on her.
hope this post saves somebody some money, time, and overal peace of mind
by nonacona60 on 27 December 2010 - 05:12
James,
Back in the 80's when I bred and showed American bred showline GSDs, Demodetic manage was a relatively comon problem.....I had used goodwinol on one bitch that had it the size of a 50 cent coin. I treated her with it faithfully and was able to cure it with that....It never reoccured again. It first errupted at the same time of her first heat. Never had another problem with it again on her.....
Goodwinol is a very good product to treat it with, if it is localized.... Several vets wanted to do the dip and ivomec treatment for a large amount of expenses. However one of my mentors suggested the goodwinol and thats the way I treated it...I would suggest it to anyone....
Back in the 80's when I bred and showed American bred showline GSDs, Demodetic manage was a relatively comon problem.....I had used goodwinol on one bitch that had it the size of a 50 cent coin. I treated her with it faithfully and was able to cure it with that....It never reoccured again. It first errupted at the same time of her first heat. Never had another problem with it again on her.....
Goodwinol is a very good product to treat it with, if it is localized.... Several vets wanted to do the dip and ivomec treatment for a large amount of expenses. However one of my mentors suggested the goodwinol and thats the way I treated it...I would suggest it to anyone....
by jamesfountain98 on 27 December 2010 - 05:12
I'm pretty sure her heat cycle is what set the onset of my dog's demodex outbreak. This was her second heat when this occurred.
by Pharaoh on 27 December 2010 - 21:12
Pharaoh had a couple of Demodex incidents, brought on by veterinary care.
Pharaoh was believed to have "allergies" causing itchy areas. So, two different vets gave him steroids when he was young. I had him allergy tested and it came up with nothing, no allergies could be found. It was suggested that as he aged further testing would reveal his allergies.
I was told to give him daily benadryl several times per day.
One day I ran into a shepherd rescue person who suggested that it was not an allergy but an irritation. He asked me if I had shredded redwood bark on my property. At one time I had used it on my hillside for weed control. The sad part is that over years it degrades into micro-splinters.
There were two incidents that were diagnosed by scraping to be Demodex during this period. I chose to use Goodwinol after much research and asking advice from knowledgeable people. It worked and by that time I knew what the real culprit was.
I have been told that the steroids and antihistimines, at such a young age, messed with his immune system and resulted in demodex.
Last spring I sold my house and bought a new one. This house will never have any shredded redwood fir bark on it.
Pharaoh is now three years old. He doesn't have demodex and he doesn't have any allergies.
It has been over a year since he was treated with benadryl. I think it had an effect on his behavior that is now wearing off.
I am so glad that I went with the goodwinol and not some of the more extreme cures.
Michele
Pharaoh was believed to have "allergies" causing itchy areas. So, two different vets gave him steroids when he was young. I had him allergy tested and it came up with nothing, no allergies could be found. It was suggested that as he aged further testing would reveal his allergies.
I was told to give him daily benadryl several times per day.
One day I ran into a shepherd rescue person who suggested that it was not an allergy but an irritation. He asked me if I had shredded redwood bark on my property. At one time I had used it on my hillside for weed control. The sad part is that over years it degrades into micro-splinters.
There were two incidents that were diagnosed by scraping to be Demodex during this period. I chose to use Goodwinol after much research and asking advice from knowledgeable people. It worked and by that time I knew what the real culprit was.
I have been told that the steroids and antihistimines, at such a young age, messed with his immune system and resulted in demodex.
Last spring I sold my house and bought a new one. This house will never have any shredded redwood fir bark on it.
Pharaoh is now three years old. He doesn't have demodex and he doesn't have any allergies.
It has been over a year since he was treated with benadryl. I think it had an effect on his behavior that is now wearing off.
I am so glad that I went with the goodwinol and not some of the more extreme cures.
Michele
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