What if she is mated by 3 different males? - Page 1

what if the female is mated by three different males?

The first mated her on 10th, 12th & 14th. The second on the 16th, 18th & 20th. The third on the 22nd, 24th & 26th.

Some breeders says that the subjected female will carry a litter having the specifications of the 3 males. Others say no, she will carry a litter from one male only. Who is right & why.

If for example she gives birth after 62 days from the 12th, does this mean that she is sired only by male one?

If she she gives birth after 62 days from the 18th ,does this mean that she is sired by male 1 & male 2?

Sorry may be the questions are not well worded, but forgive me they come from a beginner who wants to learn.

Regards

Tarek

 Tarekallem,
Dam can conceive by different males at different times would have to DNA litter for what sire conceived who 3 different males a lot of DNAing LOL

If a female has mated to several males in one heat; then due to the fact that the 'eggs' are passed down the canal at different intervals during the 'hot' days. Simultaniously sperm from the different males can live normaly for upto 48 hours (all things being equal maybe longer). So this gives opportunity to any sperm strong enough from the different males to fertilise one egg...the next strongest/luckiest will fertilize another and so on...

It is difficult to say which male will be predominant (other) parent as the sperm strength as quality is a factor when there are several males in the mix.

It is safe to say that at least more than one male will father offspring from this one female at this heat.

As written earlier; who the final father/s will be once thy are born, can be determined through DNA...and this practice is accepted in Scandinavia by several kennel clubs.

Averyhill & apoArmani- Thanks for you reply.

If any body else has more clarifications please do send

it would really have the most to do with when ovulation occured once that happens you need 48 hours for the eggs to mature so dogs bred to her prior to ovulation would probably have less chance than ones bred day of ovulation or after though the sperm need approx 7 hours to mature once the breeding takes place so really DNA would be the only way to tell except for the color of puppies in certain cases i.e the mother was black and tan and one of the sires was sable and homozygous for sable and the others were black or black and tan yada yada yada

Go from day one of her heat, try to determine her fertile period. All the info given here is correct.   *Remember this, if a different breed dog ( ie: beagle-GOD forbid) mates with your female you could have a throw back in the future, several litters down the road. You have 16 days of breeding here, she was only going to conceive during maybe 7 of those days.(Dogs heat cycles run in weeks, four stages, they conceive in third week)  Just because she accepted the male does not mean she took from that male. DNA tests from AKC are $35 prepaid, but the parents have to be in the DNA database also, to make the determination. Generally when my female is in heat they breed on day 1,3 ,5, and maybe once more *OF THE FERTILE PERIOD* (Actual day# 10, 12, 14, ). If the males you bred to are high quality then its a matter of properly identifying the fathers. If they were not high quality then you could have done more harm to your female than good (future litters). Not too mention Brucellosis (Doggie STD), something you do not want your dog exposed to, it can sterilize them.

She could have pups sired by 1 of the dogs, or all 3 of the dogs.  Although chances are better it would only be 2, based on the dates of the breedings.  You may or may not be able to tell who the sire was based on date of birth, chances are good you won't be able to since 63 days is not an exact thing, it can be as eaerly as 59 and as late as 65 so ...



*Remember this, if a different breed dog ( ie: beagle-GOD forbid) mates with your female you could have a throw back in the future, several litters down the road.

This is incorrect.  The sperm from the Beagle (or whoever the sire is) only lives for a couple of days in the female.  It's impossible for it to effect a pup a that is concieved a year or two later.

 I took the "throwback" comment to mean that, if she is bred by a beagle, the pups may all *look* like GSDs but if you breed one down the road you could end up with (grand)pups that are definitely part beagle?  

Since the post also included this statement

If they were not high quality then you could have done more harm to your female than good (future litters).

I took it to mean that having a low quality, or mix-breed litter, could some how effect the quality of the future litters that same female might have.  Maybe the original poster will clarify.

The old tale of a bitch being ruined if she breeds with a mix-breed or any other breed than her own is FALSE. It makes NO difference on future litters. Genetics are Genetics. It the same in dogs as it is in humans. If you marry someone who is divorced that had children with their EX. and the 2 of you have children together the EX. has no bearing on how your children will turn out.