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by Ibrahim on 14 December 2010 - 20:12
1. Dry
2. Expression ( is it only related to the eyes or the whole face?)
3. Ligaments (is it same as hooks?).
4. Jowly
5. TSB
Thanks
Ibrahim
2. Expression ( is it only related to the eyes or the whole face?)
3. Ligaments (is it same as hooks?).
4. Jowly
5. TSB
Thanks
Ibrahim
by Rikah-haus on 14 December 2010 - 21:12
Dry refers to the overall firmness of the dog. The condition in which the dog is presented.
Some of this are as a result of diet and some as a result of genetics. Well defined muscle mass, neck ligaments, looseness of the lips, well defined abdominal cavity, strength in rear area etc. To make this more understandable, the word dry is often used with firm.
Ligaments, yes are hocks but also other areas including lips, neck etc.
Expression is not one particulr thing, but the overall personaility of the dog. A dog with great expression exhibits a combination of characters that make it full of expression: such as alertness, positioning of ears. Not to be mistaken for mask ( which a lot of people do). Its the presence that the dog demends.
TSB: Pronounced' lets out. The dog shows enough coourage to engage the helper. And outs on command.
Jowly: Maybe someone else can help with that. Never heard it in the ring.
Hope this helps.
Some of this are as a result of diet and some as a result of genetics. Well defined muscle mass, neck ligaments, looseness of the lips, well defined abdominal cavity, strength in rear area etc. To make this more understandable, the word dry is often used with firm.
Ligaments, yes are hocks but also other areas including lips, neck etc.
Expression is not one particulr thing, but the overall personaility of the dog. A dog with great expression exhibits a combination of characters that make it full of expression: such as alertness, positioning of ears. Not to be mistaken for mask ( which a lot of people do). Its the presence that the dog demends.
TSB: Pronounced' lets out. The dog shows enough coourage to engage the helper. And outs on command.
Jowly: Maybe someone else can help with that. Never heard it in the ring.
Hope this helps.
by Red Sable on 14 December 2010 - 21:12
Hi Ibrahim, it's been a long time since I had a showline in the ring, but from what I remember,
-dry means they want a firm toned dog not overweight or flabby.
- jowly would mean saggy loose folds of skin in jowl area (lower jaw)
- ligaments, would be front pasterns and back hocks I would assume
TBS, temporary breed survey? I know that has to do with protection, but what does it actually stand for, anyone know?
Oops, it is TSB, okay, what does that stand for?
-dry means they want a firm toned dog not overweight or flabby.
- jowly would mean saggy loose folds of skin in jowl area (lower jaw)
- ligaments, would be front pasterns and back hocks I would assume
TBS, temporary breed survey? I know that has to do with protection, but what does it actually stand for, anyone know?
Oops, it is TSB, okay, what does that stand for?
by Red Sable on 14 December 2010 - 21:12
What would 'present' TSB mean?
Found this website,
http://www.germanshepherdfacts.com/
Found this website,
http://www.germanshepherdfacts.com/
by Ibrahim on 14 December 2010 - 21:12
Rikah-haus,
Yes that is a great explanation, simple and precise, I wouldn't have imagined all what dry really means, now I know what it refers to. Thank you so much for the reply.
Ibrahim
Yes that is a great explanation, simple and precise, I wouldn't have imagined all what dry really means, now I know what it refers to. Thank you so much for the reply.
Ibrahim
by Ibrahim on 14 December 2010 - 21:12
Red Sable,
Thanks for the help and for the website. The way you explained jowly is (pronounced), lol.
Ibrahim
Thanks for the help and for the website. The way you explained jowly is (pronounced), lol.
Ibrahim
by windwalker18 on 15 December 2010 - 06:12
1. Dry as opposed to wet... A dry dog carries no excess weight over muscle. Basically the show type are more wet than the working type. Both the working dogs I have are dryer than most show line. When you put a hand on them all you feel is muscle. A wet dog tends to carry more weight for same sized frame, and often look bigger than they are.
2. Expression ( is it only related to the eyes or the whole face?) The expression does begin with the eyes, but stop, earset, and width of skull factor in quite a bit also. The overall impression of the face. Like the standard in US says, The look of Eagles, difficult to describe, but unmistakable when present.
3. Ligaments (is it same as hooks?). I thin k it's primarily used in regards to the rear assembly of the GSD. It's easier for the novice to see the bones which make up the rear leg, and too often overlooked the Ligamentation which supports the rear. I like to think of a suspension bridge... the longer the span, the more support is needed. By the same measure, the longer the Stifle bone (From knee to hock) in the rear leg the more important the tightness of the ligaments which hold it up. I've had very extreme (US Show line) dogs which had poor ligamentation, resulting in the hocks flipping from side to side when they run... like a suspension bridge in a high wind might if there's not proper support. I've also had some (again US Show Line) who were extreme, yet could stretch themselves out till the belly almost touched the ground without any weakness showing in the rear legs... they had tight ligamentation. Right now I have a working import line bitch who can do the same.
4. Jowly... Think Churchhill.. lol. Looseness or excess of flesh below the jawline. A little may be handsome, but an excess can lead to drool a go-go. Saint Bernards often have this.
5. TSB... ain't got no idea..
2. Expression ( is it only related to the eyes or the whole face?) The expression does begin with the eyes, but stop, earset, and width of skull factor in quite a bit also. The overall impression of the face. Like the standard in US says, The look of Eagles, difficult to describe, but unmistakable when present.
3. Ligaments (is it same as hooks?). I thin k it's primarily used in regards to the rear assembly of the GSD. It's easier for the novice to see the bones which make up the rear leg, and too often overlooked the Ligamentation which supports the rear. I like to think of a suspension bridge... the longer the span, the more support is needed. By the same measure, the longer the Stifle bone (From knee to hock) in the rear leg the more important the tightness of the ligaments which hold it up. I've had very extreme (US Show line) dogs which had poor ligamentation, resulting in the hocks flipping from side to side when they run... like a suspension bridge in a high wind might if there's not proper support. I've also had some (again US Show Line) who were extreme, yet could stretch themselves out till the belly almost touched the ground without any weakness showing in the rear legs... they had tight ligamentation. Right now I have a working import line bitch who can do the same.
4. Jowly... Think Churchhill.. lol. Looseness or excess of flesh below the jawline. A little may be handsome, but an excess can lead to drool a go-go. Saint Bernards often have this.
5. TSB... ain't got no idea..
by Sunsilver on 15 December 2010 - 06:12
Hodie posted the definition awhile back:
"T" ratings have to do with "Härte, Mut, und Kampftrieb" (Hardness, Courage, and Fighting Drive) now referred to as:
"Triebveranlagung, Selbstsicherheit, und Belastbarkeit" or "TSB".
(innate drive, self-assurance, and the ability to withstand duress),
I used the 'search' function to find this.
"T" ratings have to do with "Härte, Mut, und Kampftrieb" (Hardness, Courage, and Fighting Drive) now referred to as:
"Triebveranlagung, Selbstsicherheit, und Belastbarkeit" or "TSB".
(innate drive, self-assurance, and the ability to withstand duress),
I used the 'search' function to find this.
by Ibrahim on 15 December 2010 - 10:12
Sunsilver,
Thank you so much, now we know the exact words which make TSB. Ibrahim
Thank you so much, now we know the exact words which make TSB. Ibrahim
by Ibrahim on 15 December 2010 - 10:12
Windwalker18,
Thank you for the explanation especially the ligaments, very useful description of how they function too. Thanks a lot.
Ibrahim
Thank you for the explanation especially the ligaments, very useful description of how they function too. Thanks a lot.
Ibrahim
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