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by hamad al ojayan on 13 October 2010 - 08:10

hi i'm from kuwait i'm a member of this site and as of now i'm experiencing a problem regarding the last negotiation i have. it was too bad coz now one of the dog seller in this site has been ignoring and nt giving enough information on how i can get my money back. please help on what i can do with this kind of problem.thanks

by Ibrahim on 13 October 2010 - 08:10

Hamad,

Did you buy a dog and pay for it and then did not receive it?
What does the breeder say in this regard?
Who is this breeder?
Please give more information so we understand what is going on here.
Ibrahim

by hamad al ojayan on 13 October 2010 - 09:10

thanks for your reply, we bought a dog name zambie from dejan..GSD kennel " demina" with an amount of 1800 euro and we send him the money tru kuwait national bank in his account. We are expecting him to send us the dog but he said that there is some problem with a serbian bank that they didnt give the money to him and he said that he returned it back to my account then he give us a call telling us to send him again an amount of 1800 via westrn union when we send him the money he immediately send us the dog but regarding the last payment that we have from him he said that he send it already and we been waiting for more that 2 months now with our bank trying to contact dejans. we have loss a lot of money but we didnt get any answer from him either phone or e mail. now i dont know what and who i'm going to contact with this problem if you have some advise can you please help me.thanks and best regards

by Ibrahim on 13 October 2010 - 09:10

Hamad,

I am sure some friends on this forum who know more about this breeder, know more about how a money transfer works out will step forward and help you with a genuine advice. I can begin with you asking the breeder to send you copy of the money transfer-back he claims he transferred back to you. I will also look for more information, I understand that the breeder is from Serbia, correct?

Ibrahim

by tarekallam on 13 October 2010 - 09:10

Hamad;

As Ibrahim Suggested, you better ask him to send you a copy of the bank transfer proving that he sent you back your money otherwise I suggest that you send a complaint against him to the Serbian kennel club or whatever approved party responsible for the GSD union / federation in Serbia. Your complaint should be supported with all documentary evidence & correspondences proving that you sent the money at the first place & that he failed to send it back to you.

Regards

by Ibrahim on 13 October 2010 - 10:10

I always say when one plans importing a puppy or dog the first thing he/she should look for is a trustworthy breeder before searching the bloodline, dog etc. In the past few years I imported few puppies and young dogs from Czech and Germany where I know breeders I can trust with my money and to provide quality GSDs both working and show bloodlines. I know several breeders also in the States, though I did not buy from but I am sure I can trust as much as the Czech and German. I also know a breeder in Lebanon I do trust. I am sure Tarek who is a reliable smart person knows of a few such breeders too.
Anyone especially from the Middle East who needs help in regards to recommended breeders in Germany, Czech and U.S.A here is my e mail:
iabulaban@hotmail.com

Feel free to contact me and I can suggest you good reliable breeders, for free as I am not a trader, just a GSD enthusiast who hates to see some one fooled by a fraud.

Ibrahim

by tarekallam on 13 October 2010 - 10:10

Hamad;

Once I was cheated by a German breeder namely Frank Borowski & his wife Manuela Borowski whom I understood later that they are both criminals & they stole money & dogs from different foreign buyers & / or other German breeders. I reported the incident & I sent all supporting documents evidencing the fraud to the German police via a friend of mine who is married to a German lady. After the police studied the documents & made sure that my claim is a tangible one, they chased him & caught him. He promised to send them to send me back the money on a certain date which he did not so far. However he is still escaping from the police & he is never back home. So if you do not get back your money you can also report to the Serbian police.

by tarekallam on 13 October 2010 - 11:10

Hamad;

You can also pay a visit to the Serbian Embassy in Kuwait, they do help.

by matthews3662 on 13 October 2010 - 12:10

If you are waiting 2 months, then the money was never returned. That is just a simple fact, I don't think the bank would do such a thing to you because it is illegal.
I suggest at this point to make a criminal complaint with your state police. Then tell them you want the money back. At least you will have documentation started, this is a long time to wait, I would not of been so kind to wait for 2 months. I do hope you get your money back.
I don't deal with dishonest sellers as well. It only takes being burned once to learn the lesson. So I can understand your frustration.
good luck Sir.

by trixx on 13 October 2010 - 14:10

i understand where you are coming from as i too have lost out from a scamer in Hungry and now i put a deposit on a litter here in the USA and now the breeder said they would send my deposit back and i am still waiting for it and its been over a month. i mean i waited two litters and still they did not have me a pup.. and now they wont return call or email and they have taken down there website , they are memebers here too...

i really did check these people out so i was for sure they were good...

what should i do about this anyone know the AKC,police etc...?

we should have a list of good breeders...

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