Awful little white spot...... - Page 1

Seems lately that more and more puppies are being produced with white on the chest and on feet....It is not more in one line than  the other..(Work/Show)..I was at a friend's house and they were showing puppies to a buyer.  This puppy was going to a potential schutzhund home.......The puppy with the white on his chest had more drive and was showing more potential then one without the white.......The buyer was very impressed with him, but because he had white on his chest, he decided to purchase the other puppy without the white..and stated that was the decideing facgtor.  We all know color should never be a deciding factor when looking for the perfect puppy for a certain situation....

Any opinions why the white is becoming more and more common.....
This is what the thread is about, not anything else.......Lets keep it on why the white is being produced more and more.....

PLEASE LETS NOT ARGUE ABOUT IT,lets just discuss it as adults.....

    My male had white on his chest and the tip of a few toes when we brought him home at 8 weeks old,,,,It's gone now he just turned 10 months old....

                                      Deanna....: )

Our puppy had white on his chest also at 8 wks old too....It was about 1 1/2 in, very very thin pencil line. Now he's 4 months old and we really have to look hard to find it........The white doesn't bother us at all......

My 1.5  year old had a white patch on his chest at 8 weeks and it was gone in a couple of months. I have two pups in my litter of 9 that have white patches on their chests, one was fairly big. My pups are three weeks old now and the white patches are staying the same size as they grow. I'm sure by 3 months old you won't be able to see them.

 

Though a little white on the feet, between toes and or on the chest is acceptable by judges as I hear from friends in the States and Europe I do not like it and see it is a bad sign of poor pigment. I would hesitate a lot to buy a puppy with some white on it. Many puppies who have some white when newly born will get free of it at a later age, it will be mingled or covered by hairs of other color but they will reproduce it in their offspring in future and they themselves will re-show those white hairs when they get old say 8 years old or more. I believe breeders should start paying attention to eliminate this white in their breedings otherwise it will icrease in puppies and the now little white hairs will become more and more.
Some believe it is due to a puppy not being fully developed in the womb but I believe it is genetic and inherited, as Prager says fading color is degenerating of the line, I think these white hairs are also a sign of degenerating in the line too.

Ibrahim

White toes and chest patches are not connected to the gene that causes fading colour.  It occurs in show and working lines, friend of mine has an Asko v d Lutter son with a huge white patch on his chest and it is very common in the black/red show lines.  Mostly disappears under the topcoat  as the pup gets older.  While I don't like the look of it, white paw and chest marking would not influence me when choosing a pup, there are far more important things to worry about.

Margaret N-J

Ibrahim, you wrote excellently about your piece on the 'white patch on gsds'. Nobody in this forum would want the gsd to look like some discoloured pitbull. In buying pups from abroad i usually emphasize 'No white patch !', of course, this doen't mean white patched/toed gsd are less than Ok.

Ibrahim, you wrote excellently about your piece on the 'white patch on gsds'. Nobody in this forum would want the gsd to look like some discoloured pitbull. In buying pups from abroad i usually emphasize 'No white patch !', of course, this doen't mean white patched/toed gsd are less than Ok.

A small white spot or a few white hairs doesn't look so bad, but a big white blaze on the chest, isn't to appealing to me.


I have noticed people that are breeding for the liver & blue colors are getting white tipped tails,

that only looks good on a hound dog like the Beagle....