first time muzzle training , please command - Page 1

since muzzletraining is not so much done in holland  , I like to get some advice here
did my first section of muzzlework today with ajax , who also never had a muzzle on before today , but is a very civil , not equipment fixated dog
I would like for him to go more for the body than for the leg , but on the suit he also goes for the legs sometimes

first clip is on the suit , seconf on the muzzle today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpjvHIcnBIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS7mEHe8T6Y

NICE dog no complaints about him...my only constructive critisizm would be for the decoy.  I would want him to collapse when the dog engages and give the dog some satisfaction of winning.  The dogs main weapon is his mouth that has been disabled, the dog tries well to use his body...the decoy was pretty stagnant (aside from minimal prey movement and running away from the dog at the end) he did not let the dog dominate him and let him win.  If the dog cannot use his mouth, the decoy allowing physical domination is the most significant way to reward the dogs aggression...I would reserve any resistant decoy behavior when the dog is more experienced and you want to test or at least push the dogs determination.

Considering the decoy didn't give him a win, your dog handled it very well for the first time.  If your decoy works him like this for a long period, and the dog is not super determined, he may lose interest or intensity...your dog may wonder what the point of it all is....you handcuffed him and sent him into a fight.  If he experiences kicking ass with handcuffs on he will enjoy the work, empower him and will elevate his aggression.  If he tries using his body but is not doing any "damage" or getting anywhere it may confuse him...or at least it is not conducive to reaching his potential and the point of doing muzzle work.

If all you wanted to see if he would bite for real and ignore the equipment...I believe that is proven.

JMO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWcreNpRrS0

Here's a video of police K9 training to show you what I would like to see from the decoy.

thanx gsdfan , I asked the decoy to fall on the ground after impact , but as he is a new decoy , and him being insecure about  ajax , he didnot do it
I will show him the clip you put down , as he is willing to learn  , but intill now he experienced nothing more than a few showlinesheps on the sleeve , not saying there cant be good showline sheps

 

Duke,
You have gotten some excellent comments here.  The only thing I would add would be to make sure you do obedience, tracking, agility etc while the dog wears the muzzle.  The dog should not associate the muzzle with protection work only.  If you only put the muzzle on during bitework the dog will become aggressive every time he wears the muzzle.  It is important to condition the dog to the muzzle.  I will second that you should be using a leather muzzle, it is safer for the dog and the decoy.  That muzzle is not appropriate for muzzle training.  I would also second what Melanie said about making sure the muzzle is tight and on on securely.  A friend of mine was badly injured decoying when a muzzle came off during muzzle work. We make it the decoys responsibility to check the muzzle since he has the most to lose. 


GSDfan (Melanie), covered everything I would have said extremely well. 

Jim

thanx everyone , this got me some points I can work with , ill be posting a progress video soon

hey duke
you are novice person you run your mouth about show line dog or you call them sheep, insted of lering some theing about dog ,stay that way .

I dont know what you are referring to waleed , but have a nice evening anyway