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by triodegirl on 10 October 2010 - 07:10

I ran across this classified tonight and was thinking this dog sounds dangerous and unstable to me. Or is this to be expected from a trained personal protection dog? In 30 years I've never yet had a GSD that would go after kids. I've always  thought of the GSD as a protector of children. I give the owner credit though for being honest. This dog would need a very experienced handler or he would bite every stranger he came in contact with. 4 live bites sounds like a lot to me.

www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/classifieds/107317.html


GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 10 October 2010 - 12:10

 Sounds like a potential liability to me.  And aside from that he's kind of on the fat side.  I would never have a dog who does not tolerate children either, I made it a point for mine to be around kids a lot and he loves kids whether he knows them or not.

VomRuiz

by VomRuiz on 10 October 2010 - 13:10

I think he's absolutely gorgeous.
Opinion on his looks aside... I could never own a dog that doesn't tolerate children either.
I have resently started saying "No" to adults who ask to pet my dogs, but kids are always told they may.

4 live bites does sound like a lot.
I wonder if he's had that many "intruders" or is just irresponsible.
I hate assuming, but what other conclusion can we come to? Is the dog that unpredictable?
As long as the owner screens the buyer well and can tell after meeting the person if they are serious and can handle the dog, and is not some flake,he probably will make a great companion.
I've always wanted a very protective dog...but the non-discriminating "bite anyone" is a bit scary to me.

I hope he gets a great home... I just love his expression.

Stacy

VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 10 October 2010 - 14:10

Without knowing the dog, who can really say? Four live bites, ok, we don't know the circumstances. It's not unusual for a property guarding dog to get in a few bites a year.

Some dogs are not raised with children and have never been around them. Years ago, my (really my ex's) first GSD hated any child outside the family because neighborhood brats would tease him in our own yard.

The seller is stating clearly the kind of handler the dog needs and stating the dog's cons. No one here knows the dog's history, so who is anyone here to decide what the dog is or is not mentally?

VomRuiz

by VomRuiz on 10 October 2010 - 14:10

Very true KC...good and fair post.

Edit to add... I'm pretty sure if I were a dog I would bite kids LOL

by triodegirl on 10 October 2010 - 14:10

I didn't mean to pass judgement on this dog but was more interested in opinions. My first GSD was a very protective one person dog' He's been gone for 20 years and I still miss him Best dog I ever had. So that's what made me notice this ad. My first GSD was not raised around kids, but did not see children as a threat either.

by triodegirl on 10 October 2010 - 14:10

Should have learned from the Voodoo fiasco never to comment on a classified ad. lol

JON ERIC

by JON ERIC on 10 October 2010 - 15:10

   The Ad sounds like a description of every German Shepherd that I have owned since my First one i raised in 1964.
  I have loved them all,and they were loyal to me,and that was the only thing that matters to me.
  Any of you who believe that just because you have socialized your dog with children from 14 weeks,taken them to the Post Office,Fire House,Fair Ground,training sessions,Club,etc.,and then assume that this dog will accept any child or adult,is simply a Fool.
   It reminds of the Post i wrote about relying on my dogs for Protection,even though they were NOT given what some of what you all term Protection Training.
  Someone responded that I could not rely on them.Well i beg to differ,I would put any amount of money on the table,that the Pretty Girl in the picture with me is Very Reliable,and Loyal.
   The Point i am trying to make,the long trem Natural Bond between these Dogs and their Handler creates,and enhances an Inherent desire and Inate Ability to Protect.Some Bloodlines more than others.
   It is just there.

Rookabadooka

by Rookabadooka on 10 October 2010 - 16:10

My Aunt and Uncle had a GSD that was raised with their kids.  One day when I was around 5 or 6 I bent over to pet "Dukie" while he was laying in a corner and he bit me in the face puncturing my lip.  I still remember feeling bad when he got in trouble.  He was never mean to me anytime before that.  They ended up giving him to the k-9 department in the town. 

The point is ANY dog can turn at ANYTIME.  To this day I have a slight fear of dark colored GSDs and I know it is just remnant from the incident.  Duke was not a bad dog he was simple A dog.  That being said, I am sure there is a home and a handler that could work with this dog.  I know it is not me.  As a parent I am soo sooo careful around ANY animal and try to teach my kids proper dog safety.  We will be getting our pup in mid-December.  i chose a breeder who has very mild mannered loyal pups raised in the house with the kids around....for obvious reasons.  Still, My young children will never be unsupervised around the pup.   And no, it is not a "Christmas puppy"  the timing just worked out that way.  I do not want my kids thinking the pup is a present from Santa or a "toy."

Anywho, I hope the seller of this dog is very very careful about who gets it in the future.  Being they were up front in their ad I am sure they will.

~Rooka

by fides on 10 October 2010 - 18:10

"Does not like kids because they are kids, some shepherds will accept any child. This One DOES NOT! if they are not supposed to be there, then they are subject to be bitten as any stray adult. "


I think the advertiser is highlighting what he/she considers to be a selling point. It seems  the dog in their opinion discriminates between people who are authorized to be on site versus those who aren't - adult or child. It isn't that the dog does not like children generally.

It saddens me because I realize that in some parts of our world  "children" aren't as innocent as they ought to be and are actually threats..., to the degree that people believe they need this level of protection.






 


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