Opinions - Page 1

>  I rarely post for "OBVIOUS" reasons, so here goes. My current PSD is a 4yo male. He is "NOT" registered. However his hips are good no deformities, his picture is on my avatar. He possesses outstanding hunt drive and food drive. He has had some good fights and captures to date a well, and has great scent work over all.

 >  I have a female as well. She is of West German decent. She is from a very well known Kennel. Has full registration and papers and is AKC registered also. Her hunt drive is awesome, in addition she has more energy than she can use. Her nose work is outstanding as well

>  I want to breed them in order to take pick of the litter male for my next PSD prospect.. What are your thoughts and opinions since I will not be able to register the pups due to my male not being registered? Please just opinions, no "BASHING" please?

Phil

I,d like to see the pedogree,s on both dogs. Has any of the siblings been bred of either and if so how did they turn out?

Deacon, you need to give more information. If you want a pairing opinion you need to give pedigrees. If you are breeding without certain tests others use as a minimum, then just be sure you have good homes lined up for the puppies. Some would say neutered, too.  (And what are you hunting with your GSD? Just curious.)
 
I think you just don't want to become part of the problem, adding to the number of unwanted dogs/pets.

Deacon,

Puppies are a crap shoot, even when the male and female are proven producers.  If you take your heart of the equation and look at it objectively, do you have any reason to believe that the traits that make your male such a good dog for you right now are going to pass on to his offspring?

Personally I'd rather take a green dog forward for a job such as PSD, SAR or any of those lines of work, rather than roll the dice not once but twice and gamble on so many unknowns.

Beetree,

I think when one talks about "hunt drive" that refers to the dog being willing to continue or commitment to "hunt" for the ball or toy or reward.  It is an important trait for using a dog for narcotics or explosives detection.  It isn't hunting as in for animals or game per say.

Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com

Phil, you can do whatever you want. Just don't expect everyone here to agree with you! 

My main concern would be that if the male and female are TOO much alike, they may produce offspring with over the top drive that are difficult to handle. (But, then, of course, you can sell them to unsuspecting pet owners...LOL)

A couple of questions: is the female titled, or working on any titles to show she has what it takes?  And, as Bob has said, what about the siblings? How have they turned out and what have they produced? (In the ISSR Shiloh club, we a very strict about keeping track of littermate information, so better decisions about breeding can be made.)

Thirdly, do you have possible homes lined up for other pups in the litter? What if she produces 13 puppies?

Got to think about these things, especially since the pups won't be able to get papers.

>  Grizzly is a Police K-9. Otti is trained the same way as him except she does not bite in any form. Her reward is the man holding the kong when she locates she barks and rewarded when I arrive. She is confident in all surroundings, is calm under gunfire, pistol, rifle, shotgun and is confident on all surfaces, day or night. As you already know, Grizzly "HAS" to be, to perform his duties.

>  I have real good persons who know both dogs well who have shown an interest in the pups.

Do you know the ancestry of your male?  There is a process with AKC for these kind of situations/rescues.  They do genetic testing and assign a number that starts, I think, with a Q.  After 4 generations, something happens-a normal AKC #?Check with AKC.  That's all I know and I could be off on some of the detail. 

As to health clearances, OFA does not require a dog to be anything but 2 years old.  Get OFA hips and elbows on both of them.

That would be responsible.

If you kept all the puppies until they could be spayed and neutered and then sell them.  People will be getting fabulous pets and they would not be able to breed them.  That would be responsible.

It's up to you to take care of business if you care to put out the energy.

Michele

PS.   Where are the pictures? 

Is this another case of  "breeding my dog because I like my dog and I want a puppy"?  Like previously mentioned, what will you do with all of the "extra" puppies?  Giveaways?  Aren't there enough Shepherds in shelters already?  The first question in breeding is, am I improving the breed?  If you like your male so much, go back to his breeder and get a puppy from them.  If your male is a working K9, who does he "belong" to?  Most departments won't allow their K9 dogs to be bred because of liability down the road.  If he is your dog, who is responsible for a possible bite situation?

Phil, maybe that is why he doesn't have papers on the dog....that was my first thought too that if the dog belonged to the PD?

Vickie
www.PowerHausKennels.com