Cesar with OJ the trainer, A lesson in Aggression - Page 1

This OJ guy seems to know his stuff. Thought I'd share and see what you all think. 

THis is one of the few caesar episodes I actually have seen, and I'm quite interested in learning more about OJ's  training ideas/program.  I'm also very interested to hear others assessments of him especially if anyone has had any real life experiences.

(Must really suck to have that name after football OJ's nonsense
 It's almost seems like he had to be great at something  that gives him authoritative command just not to go mental from other peoples remarks) 


thanks for posting bee

OJ does know his stuff. He is one of the few who have trained a dog to PSA3. RIP Porter.

I liked it! Never been a fan of Milan, I am a proponent of using obedience for control, so I REALLY liked this guy. Thanks for sharing!

The only thing that video proved was the fact that Cesar Milan is a great snake oil salesman.  The first thing you noticed when they had the dog by the car was he does not have real dog aggression.  He shut down almost immediately when corrected even on that ridiculous "PETA" collar.  Funny how OJ switches collars right away but we don't even mention it and then when one of the "selected dogs" becomes a bit of a problem, he is removed.  That doesn't fix your problem,,,it avoids it, on both counts,,,,,,,score??  Dogs 2, Cesar/OJ -0.  Then we get interest in a tug device and stuff a pacifier into the "problem" dog's mouth.  Problem solved , no more aggression, dog has a mouthful.  At that point Cesar makes comments about how great OJ is for noticing that the dismissed dog was a problem and LOOK,,,,,,low and behold your problem is once again solved.  Essentially attempting to solve a crime problem by walking down a different street.  THE CRIME IS STILL THERE, YOU JUST AVOIDED IT!!!!!

If this dog were truly dog aggressive, do you honestly think that he would have stopped right away when Cesar pulled on his leash?  The dog was a low end to moderate bully who had been allowed by his owners to think he was a tough guy.  Again, do you think a dog with real dog aggression is going to ignore dogs around him in close proximity and play with a tug???  NO, he'll shove the tug out of his way to get at the other animal and if you continue to annoy him with it, he'll probably get you too.  A tug at that point is like asking some delinquent crack dealing knucklehead to sit down and play a game of Old Maid.  He'll probably spray the cards in your face.

Believe me, that was a very poor example of aggression problem solving.  It was more an example of a spoiled pet that has a very easy life with his "guardians".  It just goes to show you what great marketing can do for you and if you varnish it and perfume it, people will even buy dog shit.  (Pardon my frankness but stuff like this really frustrates me)

I'm sure anyone who has a truly dog aggressive dog will love to chime in here but in this case it's just a case of a spoiled dog who probably has been to the "dog park" 9000 times and has been allowed to bully SOME of the dogs there.  He's kind of a hypocrite, no real aggression.  The jumping up and down is frustration from being held back on the leash kinda a loudmouth goof in a gin mill who tries to act tough because someone is holding him back.  True aggression by a dominant male????  Cesar's got some nice big holes and we never see this tape.  What I saw was very average training and a great sales job with the owners by a California guy that has made a lot of money selling clothes to an Emperor in his underwear.

i trained with oj  ,allot of time he is very good


 waleed

Good for you Waleed, do you think that dog had true dog aggression?  Do you think that putting a dead prey object in the dog's mouth fixes his aggression or does it just cover it for the newbie owners like smoke and mirrors?.  That session was absolutely no help to those people whatsoever.  I'm surprised at what Kelly had to say as I know where she works and I know who she works with and I know how many aggressive dogs they see on an almost daily basis.  Aggression is no joke and cannot be fixed by watching a video or reading a book.  The dog in the video was easy and in my opinion should have been fixed by the owners and no one else.  In the opening you see the dog shut down very easily by a minimal correction on an almost useless training collar.  At that point Cesar could have just given the dog back to the owners and showed THEM how to read the signs and correct the issues.  Having someone else do the work for you and then hand you back your dog and tell you everything's fixed does no one any good including the dog.  It's salesmanship and nothing more.  It obviously impressed several people who read this board but how many of you have actually witnessed an aggressive dog and observed it's training?  How many dogs have you trained in your lifetime,,,,,,,5?  Maybe 10?  That doesn't exactly speak volumes in terms of "clinical" experience, it takes years of working with hundreds of dogs to develop skills to read and condition a dogs thoughts.  Just because I know how to change the oil in my car does not mean I'm ready to be the safety supervisor for the space shuttle program.

That collar is like a miniature harness where the leash attaches to the center cross piece,,,,non-restrictive, very doggie friendly but useless for an aggressive dog, which in this case is not the case.