Re: GeordieGavino and the PETA Investigation Victory... - Page 1

I would have posted a reply to this thread in your thread, GG, but the text box wouldn't show up at all, so I gave it up.  I second the poster who stated that you wouldn't find any kudos going to PETA.   No one here likes them, except for those occasional visitors who come in to stir trouble for one reason or another.

Comparing Thanksgiving to the Holocaust?  It gets way deeper in the cesspool than that.  PETA couldn't give a rip less about animal welfare.  

Geordi, you'd better understand one thing that most of us who really love animals understand:  ANIMAL RIGHTS is not ANIMAL PROTECTION.  They are as different as light and dark.

These nutcase people believe that keeping pets is keeping slaves, and that all domesticated animals should be killed to SAVE them from the hellish condition of human ownership.  It is believed that all domesticated animals should not exist, created by humans as they were, and that the enjoyment of animals should be done from afar...Such as miles.  Companionship should be sought with other humans, and not animals.

Even vermin such as mice should be given the same rights as humans, and protected from humans.  Dr. Michael Fox (not the actor, mind you) made the statement (or at least had it attributed to him) that: "The life of an ant and the life of my child should be given equal consideration."
 
Ingrid Newkirk, co founder of PETA, is quoted as comparing the human species and its myriad races to a cancer which has spread across the earth.  Nice, isn't it, to be called a cancer?  

This is the mentality of these people, if you want to call them that.  They come out in defense of helpless laboratory animals, and toot their own horns over shutting down a lab, but then turn around and euthanize more than ninety percent of animals surrendered to them.  They also support and lobby for tighter regulations on pet ownership, subtly attempting to change the public perception of animals, such as changing the word "pet" to "companion animal" in laws they have their hands in.  Pet denotes ownership, such as in slavery, they say, and 'companion animal' does not. 

Better study up, my friend.  Anyone who truly loves animals cannot in good conscience support any group like PETA or HSUS, unless they are completely ignorant of the issues these organizations are involved in.  Do your research and you'll see.  PETA should stand for:

People
Exterminating (Annihilating)
Tamed (domesticated
Animals

Far more accurate, in my book...And it's not an exaggeration.  It's the dead honest truth.

Crys

Sorry to offend and to be honest i understand your views but if it wasnt for Peta that lab would still be open and animals would still be feeling a great deal of suffering there. They may not be perfect and a bit mad but if they help just one animal out of a horrible situation then am happy.

CrysBuck, I'm with you.  You are 100% correct.

As if there weren't other organizations working to protect animals, to think that "if it weren't for PETA..."  RIDICULOUS.

"if they help just one animal out of a horrible situation then am happy."

Is that net or gross? PETA kills FAR more animals than it ever, ever helps.  FACT: PETA kills almost 90% of the animals that are surrendered to its care.  As CrysBuck says, do your research before you spout drivel.

www.petakillsanimals.com

Crys, I didn't see this before replying on the other postl

Oh that is sophistry 101. So if someone does one good thing then they are good and not to be condemned by us?

Ok then. Here is one for you:

 Adolf Hitler liked German Shepherds and petted them on the head and fed them well. So he did some good and we should not condemn him.
OMG. Where did you go to school? What do they teach there? This is basic logic.  
 

Prager.

Hey, For $18.00's a month you can save thousands of animals..... Plus pay the salary of their lobbyists. I agree, look a little deeper. I find the ad that jumps across this page offensive, the TV commercials extremely offensive, and people who would rather write a check than get involved personally, the Nine. Moons.

PETA believes that animals should be left to their own natural world.  This is very much like signs in the national parks that say "Don't feed the animals."

Their view is that domesticated animals are unnatural. That the only kindness is to euthanize or "put down" those who cannot be returned to the wild.

They long for a world where humans are all vegans, no animal husbandry, no eggs-no milk, no leather shoes or belts etc.  Nature would then proceed to self-limit animal populations in the wild.  To loosely quote Thomas Hobbes......life in the state of nature is nasty, poor, brutish and short.... To summarize, domesticated animals are better off dead.

That is not how they portray themselves with their PR campaigns.  They want the gullible public to keep those donations coming so they can do their "important" work. (euthanasia on the cheap-dumping animals in weird, but free, locations)

www.petakillsanimals.com/

I have more of a classic Animal Welfare belief system.  Pharaoh does too!

Michele

' Dr. Michael Fox (not the actor, mind you) made the statement (or at least had it attributed to him) that: "The life of an ant and the life of my child should be given equal consideration." '

This out of context statement is attributed to the wrong person, it was Wayne Pacelle of HSUS who said it. Dr Fox had been on the HSUS board at one time, that is all. I like Dr. Fox and don't agree at all with the negativity against him. He certainly does not kill pets, but has a rather holistic view on their care.