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by Lewis_hartley on 16 April 2006 - 23:04
Hello everybody i was wondering whether anyone on this database, has had any expierience or knowledge about cod liver oil being successful in helping dogs overcome pano ?
Thanks for your replies and time given ......
by k9sar on 17 April 2006 - 02:04
Hello,
Pano is an inflamation of the long bones. I have never used cod liver oil but have been successful decreasing the protein level of food, the amount of food and limiting exercise.
I switched brands of food 2 years ago and found my dog could not tolerate the high protein level. (EVO was the food). He developed a severe case of pano. The above was instituted (low protein etc) He was unable to work for 6-8 weeks and then started back slowly.
Sarah Atlas

by VomFelsenHof on 17 April 2006 - 03:04
Decrease the dog's protein source, as this is typically the culprit. Anything above 25%, I would stay away from.
Here is something to read over before giving your dog cod liver oil (these hold true for canines as well)
(TAKEN AS AN EXCERPT FROM:http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/ds/dsCodLiverOil.php):
Osteoarthritis, the breakdown of the cartilage that cushions the joints, causes pain and stiffness in millions of people as they grow older. Fish oil, rich in omega-3 fats, helps counter inflammation, so some people with another form of arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis (an inflammatory disease), take fish oil supplements to help re-duce symptoms. There is also an inflammatory element in osteoarthritis, but this is apparently the first study to look at fish oils effect on the disease in humans.
Whats the catch?
Here are some reasons to think twice before taking cod liver oil:
? First of all, despite all the ballyhoo about the study, it has not yet been published, so it cant be evaluated. Even if the results turn out to be solid, they would have to be confirmed by more research.
This short-term study looked only at biochemical markers for osteoarthritis (certain enzymes in cartilage). It did not involve X-rays to see if cartilage breakdown actually was reduced. It also did not evaluate whether the cod liver oil reduced symptoms.
Though fish oil is rich in heart-healthy omega-3s, supplements can pose dangers. They can increase the risk of hemorrhagic stroke, and people taking anticoagulants should not take them. Large doses may suppress the immune system. The American Heart Association does say that people with heart disease should consider taking the supplements, but only if they dont eat enough fish and after consulting a doctor. Eating fish is a better option for most people.
Cod liver oil, bottled or in capsule form, has special problems. It is the richest source of vitamins A and D. Just one teaspoon has 4,500 IU of A, for instance, and the standard dose is one to three teaspoons a day. The capsules contain less oil, but the vitamin can still add up, especially on top of the amount you get from foods and from a multivitamin, if you take one. Recent studies have found that as little as 6,000 IU of vitamin A daily can interfere with bone growth and promote fractures. And women of childbearing age should not exceed 10,000 IU of vitamin A because of the risk of birth defects. Too much vitamin D can also be toxic.
Cod liver oil is made from livers, of course. The liver is a filter, so toxins (such as PCBs) get concentrated there. Thus cod liver oil is more likely to be contaminated than other fish-oil supplements.
Words to the wise: If you have arthritis and want to see if fish oil helps, eat fatty fish two or three times a week. Even if it turns out that fish oil doesnt help, there are other known benefits from eating fish. If you want to try the supplements, avoid cod liver oiland talk to your doctor first.

by Bob-O on 17 April 2006 - 13:04
Lewis Hartley, I presume these are puppies/very young dogs about that you speak.
We know that Pano is typically caused by a diet that is too high in protein (and sometimes calcium) which can cause the long bones of the legs to grow at an accelerated rate. As the others are suggesting, the reduction of these two (2) elements will slow the accelerated growth of the long bones and connective tissues which can cause Pano to appear.
Not all growing puppies are affected the same way. My only experience with Pano was with two (2) male puppies, and I feel that is because males have a faster growth rate than females for the first twelve (12) months of their life. I switched them to adult food immediately and within a few weeks the problem disappeared.
As far as cod liver oil, it is a no-no with me. I would not take it as a human for the same reason that I would never eat the liver of any animal. For that reason I will not feed it to a dog.
The reason why is clearly stated by VomFelsenHof. The liver is a very rich source of nutrients but it also functions as a filtre and treatment organ for toxins that enter the body. The problem is that many of these toxins will remain in the liver for the life of the animal.
Additionally, a growing puppy must not have too much fat it its diet. The cod liver oil (or any other type of supplemental animal or vegetable fats/oils) can place much stress on the function of the pancreas and lead to other problems.
All that said, however, I do administer salmon oil sparingly for a couple of my dogs who have a dry skin/coat condition during the cold dry months. But, these are adults and not growing puppies. All of my adult dogs are fed Royal Canin Maxi 24 with good results. It's just a fact that all of the dogs are a bit different regarding how their bodies use various nutrients.
In the end, I advise to first eliminate the initial cause of the problem (too much protein and/or calcium)before trying any type of supplement. It may well be as simple as changing the dog's food.
Good Luck,
Bob-O
by Chey on 18 April 2006 - 16:04
I have used cod liver oil, but mostly in the winter months where I live as you DO NOT see the sun for months on end. I do use it sparingly. I feed raw and thus use salmon oil on a daily basis and have never had any problems.
The only time I have had pano with my pups/dogs was with the last litter and the males are HUGE boned. 3 of them have had it. I used a homoepathic remedy and it cleared it up within 10 days and thus far has not returned (that was months ago). As I feed raw, it was also easy to come down in the protein levels of his food.
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