OPINIONS, Should responsible Breeders Have there Breeding Dogs Joints Offically Certified - Page 1

Hi
This is a thread to debate whether or not Kennels and Breeders of German Shepherd dogs should have the Joints of there dogs i.e Hips and Elbows certified as Breeding Standard to within the Laws of the country they reside in, Before the Dogs are ever bred from
Steve1

Yes.

Bazza
Did you have a good Holiday  and was the weather Okay
Steve1

Best regards to your Daughter and hope all goes well for her and the Baby
Steve1

HHMMMMM...now lets see; the only 'breeders' who would answer 'no' to this question would be the ones happy enough to mate two dogs without HD/ED approved certification (or even 'failed' HD/ED status), and would be ones that are happy to SELL to 'joe public' at a price...

So to expect these 'breeders' to suddenly stop breeding and God forbid, see them lose their lucrative 'business' dissapear; would be WISHFUL THINKING!!

The fact remains, that the GSD (officially well over 100 years in existance), and whether we like it or not, the greater number of the puppies registered each year in every country are SOLD to PET/Family homes/buyers...THEY (the consumer) dectates!!! What I mean to say is that as long as there is DEMAND, you can bet your bottom $$$$ that there will be PLENTY 'supply'!!!!

The WUSV/SV (and country representatives) and the Kennel Clubs; who tell us they are there for the sole purpose (and as non-profit organizations) to improve the breed and 'guide' all who are involved in the 'right' direction...yet still turn 'blind eyes' to so many 'activities' that not only missguide, BUT undermine, and have a healthy hand in distroying the good work done by the few, and all the while of course having enough income from their 'varied' activities!!!!!

What is NEEDED is an International effort, by the above mentioned bodies and their network for a wide-spread MEDIA campaign...by contracting an International high profile MEDIA and ADVERTISING company with a PLAN...to EDUCATE 'joe PUBLIC' on all issues which concern health issues of the breed, and EDUCATE to 'guide' them in the right direction.

When 'joe public' (who controls the market) is fully educated on these issues, then only [I believe], will we see the dramatic improvements.

Just like to also add that: It is that same 'joe public'...the un-educated one (in the GSD breed health issues and their complexities of heritability etc...), who from one day to the next becomes a new 'breeder'...what a chain???

And how can we expect to have the desired 'new blood' of breeders and enthusiasts of the breed who have the core interest to improve the breed, but do not have the knowledge on how to go about it?

They will 'experiment' for several years; bring into various gene-pools all sourts of undesirable health trates and maybe just maybe they would have learned by that time...of what NOT to do. Some of them (the few): will mend their ways and others will continue doing exactly what is NOT NEEDED/DESIRED for the breed...only for $$$...thats the chain...right? 

I like any breeder who takes health serious. So yes!

Yes! Yes! Yes!  And I would like to see the cerification be mandatory for registration of the litter and possibly some way to track the litter to verify the dam/sire are the same as on the pedigree.  The AKC is a joke.  I know of one litter of Rotties that was registered as purebred Rotties when the "breeder" confessed that his neighbor's husky tied with his Rottie bitch.  He said he was going to register the litter anyway in hopes that his yearling male had gotten to her also.  No telling what other roaming males nailed her.  I saw the litter at 4wks & again at 8wks and even my untrained eye could see these were a mixed breed.  Only one pup resembled a Rottie pup enough to wonder if the yearling Rottie had indeed bred the bitch.  Not only did this jerk register the litter but he went on Facebook and eBay and advertised this litter as registered, purebred Rotties and sold every last one of them for a ridiculous price.  I would love to see those pups now!  I asked him if any of his buyers planned on bringing the pups to our club to train and his response was "Oh hell no!  I don't want to see them ever again.  That's why I met them anywhere but my place!  I don't want them coming back for a refund."  And he laughed like it was a good joke.  Which makes me wonder what kind of name and address was listed on the papers submitted to the AKC.  Any registration of our beloved breed should be hard to come by.  Thank goodness this idiot is into Rotties and not GSDs!