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by MaggieMae on 27 July 2010 - 14:07
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by Ninja181 on 27 July 2010 - 16:07
Well MA is such a small state geographically speaking that no matter where you live in the state it's probably only a half hour ride to another state. So I don't think they are really going to stop anything with this law.
A lot of residents go to NH where there is no sales tax, they buy booze and butts there as well as major appliances since MA has a high sales tax.
I don't know anyone who has had their pets vocal cords cut. Spouses maybe. LOL
A lot of residents go to NH where there is no sales tax, they buy booze and butts there as well as major appliances since MA has a high sales tax.
I don't know anyone who has had their pets vocal cords cut. Spouses maybe. LOL

by DDR-DSH on 27 July 2010 - 16:07
I've had it done, before.. long time ago. At first, it's wonderful! Eventually the vocal cord grows back, in the form of scar tissue, which cannot be trimmed, again. I have seen that it can cause a degree of distress in the breathing of the dogs, eventually, when the scar tissue has grown in. I was not happy with the long term result and would only consider to do it as a last resort measure. I would never consider it to be done for a working dog.
There are also laws and codes against barking dogs.. civil rememdies, too.. but the animal rights activists are not going to address such issues, because it seems they always do that which causes the most conflict and trouble, and whatever favors government and animal control against the citizenry.
Interesting that the animal rights activists and organizations are promoting laws like this, when they have also supported laws penalizing owners for noisy dogs. I've always felt that they didn't like debarking and bark collars because it denied them an "in", against the owner.
If there were no issues of conflict and controversy surrounding animals and animal use, animal rights organizations would have no reason to exist, much less ask for money and support. Therefore it is at least theoretically debateable whether they really want all problems to go away, or whether they want to magnify problems.
Not surprised that Massachusetts would be the first to break with any left leaning law, by the way.
There are also laws and codes against barking dogs.. civil rememdies, too.. but the animal rights activists are not going to address such issues, because it seems they always do that which causes the most conflict and trouble, and whatever favors government and animal control against the citizenry.
Interesting that the animal rights activists and organizations are promoting laws like this, when they have also supported laws penalizing owners for noisy dogs. I've always felt that they didn't like debarking and bark collars because it denied them an "in", against the owner.
If there were no issues of conflict and controversy surrounding animals and animal use, animal rights organizations would have no reason to exist, much less ask for money and support. Therefore it is at least theoretically debateable whether they really want all problems to go away, or whether they want to magnify problems.
Not surprised that Massachusetts would be the first to break with any left leaning law, by the way.
by Schaferhunden on 27 July 2010 - 16:07
An emaciated German shepherd was found in the front yard, the dog was in a small dog carrier. The animal was so ill that veterinarians had to euthanize it.
They then found dogs in the backyard and in the garage living in horrible, filthy conditions.
"The ground was covered with feces over a foot high in some places."
Carson shelter manager said the problem with most of the dogs was, they were very hungry.
"Right now they are doing pretty good. We've been feeding them regularly and checking them regularly. They are in a lot better shape than they were in Saturday."
Bartmess said she bought the kennel 4-1/2 years ago to breed dogs for sale. The business has not done well and costs her approximately $10,000 a year. The more dogs, the more problems they were having trying to take care of them.
"This is kind of like a dream that turned into a nightmare. We've never made a living off the dogs, I don't know who could."
http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/8106/CA/US/
They then found dogs in the backyard and in the garage living in horrible, filthy conditions.
"The ground was covered with feces over a foot high in some places."
Carson shelter manager said the problem with most of the dogs was, they were very hungry.
"Right now they are doing pretty good. We've been feeding them regularly and checking them regularly. They are in a lot better shape than they were in Saturday."
Bartmess said she bought the kennel 4-1/2 years ago to breed dogs for sale. The business has not done well and costs her approximately $10,000 a year. The more dogs, the more problems they were having trying to take care of them.
"This is kind of like a dream that turned into a nightmare. We've never made a living off the dogs, I don't know who could."
http://www.pet-abuse.com/cases/8106/CA/US/
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