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by GSDtravels on 19 July 2010 - 18:07
Papas Fritas, the topic is not about Shelley, it's about Molly. If you want to debate the issue forever to keep the focus off of Molly's multiple indiscretions, it won't work.
Why don't you address the other issues? Why do you keep spinning it back to Shelley? Do you think as long as you can keep everybody in their respective corners, the other MISJUDGEMENTS and LIES (you know, the ones that don't involve Shelley) will go away? Uh, I don't think so. Actually, come to think of it, the other issues could go a long way into deciding just who's lying in the Molly/Shelley mess. When someone can lie about what they themselves PUT IN PRINT, I'd think that could be very telling about who's lying about what went on behind closed doors.
Why don't you address the other issues? Why do you keep spinning it back to Shelley? Do you think as long as you can keep everybody in their respective corners, the other MISJUDGEMENTS and LIES (you know, the ones that don't involve Shelley) will go away? Uh, I don't think so. Actually, come to think of it, the other issues could go a long way into deciding just who's lying in the Molly/Shelley mess. When someone can lie about what they themselves PUT IN PRINT, I'd think that could be very telling about who's lying about what went on behind closed doors.
by FHTracker on 19 July 2010 - 18:07
Unfortunately GSDTravels anyone who knows Shelley, has met her, knows she's a lying, conwoman so there is no horse to back in this mess in terms of who has integrity.
NEITHER WOMAN DOES.
NEITHER WOMAN DOES.

by Pharaoh on 19 July 2010 - 18:07
GSDtravels, exactly on point.
Papas Fritas displays the same myopic blindness as Molly.
Steve1 said it best "are you lying now or were you lying then?"
I judge Molly by her own written words. Not suitable for BOI.
Sadly and sincerely,
Michele
Papas Fritas displays the same myopic blindness as Molly.
When someone can lie about what they themselves PUT IN PRINT, I'd think that could be very telling about who's lying about what went on behind closed doors.It amazes me to no end. It certainly goes to credibility, ethics and honor.
Steve1 said it best "are you lying now or were you lying then?"
I judge Molly by her own written words. Not suitable for BOI.
Sadly and sincerely,
Michele

by GSDtravels on 19 July 2010 - 19:07
FH, this thread is not about Shelley, she's not running for office. There are MORE ISSUES besides this debate. READ MOLLY'S OWN WORDS! She can't keep a story straight ten minutes after she's posted something! There were two back-to-back posts on that other thread, one "asking" questions and the very next, outright accusing. And the myopia from the rest of the forum is what amazed me! Everybody else just seemed to skip right over the accusations and agreed that Molly only asked pointed questions. She says it long and loud enough and everybody is wearing a different pair of glasses! How does that work?

by Pharaoh on 19 July 2010 - 19:07
FHTracker said,
Shelly is not running for anything.
So, unless your argument is "Shelley is a peepee poopoo caca head with no integrity too, so elect Molly"....... Please post that in the "Gabi dead" thread.
Michele
Unfortunately GSDTravels anyone who knows Shelley, has met her, knows she's a lying, conwoman so there is no horse to back in this mess in terms of who has integrity.This thread is about Molly's suitablity for election to the Board of Inquiry.
NEITHER WOMAN DOES.
Shelly is not running for anything.
So, unless your argument is "Shelley is a peepee poopoo caca head with no integrity too, so elect Molly"....... Please post that in the "Gabi dead" thread.
Michele
by FHTracker on 19 July 2010 - 19:07
Unfortunately this whole Gabi debacle is one of the main arguments being slung around in the Molly isn't fit for BOI debate and you're shooting yourselves in the foot by using the fruit of the poisoned tree.
You want to say Molly is unfit? Hey, I agree and I've put down my reasons in other threads. None of them have anything to do with Shelley or Gabi. GSDTravels you keep bringing up some other subject that if I remember correctly speaks even more to the core of the problem than Shelley and Gabi but honestly your points are also lost under the on going Shelley and Gabi crap.
You have a substantial, direct account issue with Molly, write it down in a letter and send it to USA. I did that weeks ago while everybody was busy beating their breasts on this idiotic board.
Not that I expect USA to give a damn since I'm not a member but it felt productive at the time.
In the meantime, you've got 10 people running for 10 slots. Best start taking up a collection to send people to the floor of the meeting in Reno to put their hats into the ring or all the bitching and whinning on a board isn't worth jack shit.
You want to say Molly is unfit? Hey, I agree and I've put down my reasons in other threads. None of them have anything to do with Shelley or Gabi. GSDTravels you keep bringing up some other subject that if I remember correctly speaks even more to the core of the problem than Shelley and Gabi but honestly your points are also lost under the on going Shelley and Gabi crap.
You have a substantial, direct account issue with Molly, write it down in a letter and send it to USA. I did that weeks ago while everybody was busy beating their breasts on this idiotic board.
Not that I expect USA to give a damn since I'm not a member but it felt productive at the time.
In the meantime, you've got 10 people running for 10 slots. Best start taking up a collection to send people to the floor of the meeting in Reno to put their hats into the ring or all the bitching and whinning on a board isn't worth jack shit.

by Sock Puppet on 19 July 2010 - 19:07
Round 2?

by Psycht on 19 July 2010 - 19:07
You know I think anyone who frequents this site with any regularity now knows that Molly is running for a position on the BOI and knows that there are numerous people that have significant doubts as to whether her being BOI is appropriate or not given the Gabi debacle and other examples. There is not a snowball's chance in hell that the opposing viewpoints on this issue are going to change their minds on the subject.
So is there a reason that this dead horse is continuing to being beaten?
So is there a reason that this dead horse is continuing to being beaten?
by FHTracker on 19 July 2010 - 19:07
I want to start a pool now on just how insanely this board implodes on itself when Molly is elected to the BOI because ... 10 slots, 10 canidates.

by Papas Fritas on 19 July 2010 - 20:07
GSDtravels,
I am not the one who has tried convoluting this issue with rumor and here say... Were you not the one that brought up the incident about the girl who "allegedly" poisoned a German Shepherd?
Nobody knows what the arrangement was between Molly and Shelley... But there is ONE INDISPUTABLE FACT AND THAT IS THAT MOLLY HELPED SHELLEY WHEN NO ONE ELSE WOULD OR COULD. From 40,000 some posts, there is one FUNDAMENTAL difference of opinion between these two "camps", and that is who has the burden of doing the honorable thing. Some people have gone so far as to say that Molly put herself in this position... Are you serious??? Do you really see the World that way??? I believe in self-reliance, and I believe that you should make your own way, always do the honorable thing (which is repay your debts), and live with integrity and humility. Shelley is the one that put herself in this position.
And with regards to that shepherd that was poisoned GSDtravels, don't you find it a little strange that a kenneled dog involved in a bite incident ends up poisoned? Hello??? You might not know for sure that she did do it, but you also do not know for sure if she did not... But it is a little strange that THAT dog ended up poisoned. How many dogs have you owned? How many of them have ended up poisoned? Let me guess... None.
I am not the one who has tried convoluting this issue with rumor and here say... Were you not the one that brought up the incident about the girl who "allegedly" poisoned a German Shepherd?
Nobody knows what the arrangement was between Molly and Shelley... But there is ONE INDISPUTABLE FACT AND THAT IS THAT MOLLY HELPED SHELLEY WHEN NO ONE ELSE WOULD OR COULD. From 40,000 some posts, there is one FUNDAMENTAL difference of opinion between these two "camps", and that is who has the burden of doing the honorable thing. Some people have gone so far as to say that Molly put herself in this position... Are you serious??? Do you really see the World that way??? I believe in self-reliance, and I believe that you should make your own way, always do the honorable thing (which is repay your debts), and live with integrity and humility. Shelley is the one that put herself in this position.
And with regards to that shepherd that was poisoned GSDtravels, don't you find it a little strange that a kenneled dog involved in a bite incident ends up poisoned? Hello??? You might not know for sure that she did do it, but you also do not know for sure if she did not... But it is a little strange that THAT dog ended up poisoned. How many dogs have you owned? How many of them have ended up poisoned? Let me guess... None.
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