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by Wanda on 21 April 2010 - 02:04
Just wondering if there are links out there that can give information about the requirements for these two tests, endurance and tracking?
by hodie on 21 April 2010 - 02:04
The AD (Ausdauerprüfung) is a 12 mile trot, broken into three segments with a 20 minute rest for the dog and handler between segments. A dog must be 14 months old to do this and it is a prerequisite only to a breed survey that can be attempted after the dog has a HGH (herding) title or a SchH 1 title. The handler rides along on a bike with the dog trotting. There is a maximum temperature that will prohibit the start if it is too hot to begin, and there is a time limit which rarely has to be enforced. Dogs should be properly trained and conditioned for this.
The FH is the advanced tracking title and a dog must have a BH and be 18 months old. The rules for the AD and FH can be found on the DVG web site at:
http://www.dvgamerica.com/rules.html
If you participate in a United Schutzhund Clubs of America event, you would want to read their rules. There may be some very minor variations in the way the rules read. USA charges a fee for their rule book but you can probably find someone to help you without buying a rule book.
The FH is the advanced tracking title and a dog must have a BH and be 18 months old. The rules for the AD and FH can be found on the DVG web site at:
http://www.dvgamerica.com/rules.html
If you participate in a United Schutzhund Clubs of America event, you would want to read their rules. There may be some very minor variations in the way the rules read. USA charges a fee for their rule book but you can probably find someone to help you without buying a rule book.

by Wanda on 21 April 2010 - 11:04
Thanks Hodie, I found every thing I need on the link. I am starting schutzhund with a trial membership at a local dvg club.
My dog has had alot of obedience and is nearly 3 years old. He may not make the transition to do well in protection as he keeps returning to heel position. The options of FH and AD have been recommended.
I really like the members and the day long training venue. It is more to my liking than the AKC venue which seems to have alot of breed prejudice toward my type of dog.
Anyway thanks for the link and info.
Wanda
My dog has had alot of obedience and is nearly 3 years old. He may not make the transition to do well in protection as he keeps returning to heel position. The options of FH and AD have been recommended.
I really like the members and the day long training venue. It is more to my liking than the AKC venue which seems to have alot of breed prejudice toward my type of dog.
Anyway thanks for the link and info.
Wanda
by hodie on 21 April 2010 - 14:04
Wanda,
If you care to describe more about your dog and what it does when working protection, either PM me, or post here. Maybe we can provide some ideas to try. In any case, the idea is to work with a club whose members you like and get along with, and to enjoy your dog in all you do. Accomplishing the FH is something that is difficult and will take a lot of work. The AD may or may not be something to really do as it leads no where if the dog does not get a SchH or HGH title. And your dog is likely fit anyway. Just have fun training. That is the most important thing. Along the way, hopefully you learn things too so that next time you have a dog you wish to train for SchH, you will have better ideas about what is required and know how to start the dog appropriately. We have all found, believe me, that mistakes we make early on in training come back to haunt us. The dog, more often than not, will respond and fall back on what it learned initially in all too many instances.
Good luck.
If you care to describe more about your dog and what it does when working protection, either PM me, or post here. Maybe we can provide some ideas to try. In any case, the idea is to work with a club whose members you like and get along with, and to enjoy your dog in all you do. Accomplishing the FH is something that is difficult and will take a lot of work. The AD may or may not be something to really do as it leads no where if the dog does not get a SchH or HGH title. And your dog is likely fit anyway. Just have fun training. That is the most important thing. Along the way, hopefully you learn things too so that next time you have a dog you wish to train for SchH, you will have better ideas about what is required and know how to start the dog appropriately. We have all found, believe me, that mistakes we make early on in training come back to haunt us. The dog, more often than not, will respond and fall back on what it learned initially in all too many instances.
Good luck.
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