Is this shepherd is better protecting dog then German Shepherd ?? - Page 1

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It looks to me much stronger guard dog then German Shepherd!

What I' am confure about if you see a such behavior in German Shepherd like this video, people say this GSD has a weak nerve, but this breed seems different no weak nerve but simply over-protective.

They are livestock guardians... different thing altogether.

Based on the way she advertises her dogs, the breeder is probably selecting specifically for aggression in her breeding stock.  I'll bet she still turns out the occassional pup that doesn't have an aggressive bone in its body.  I owned a komondor until about five years ago.  They have a similar reputation.  Mine loved everything and everyone except cats.  Are there dogs that are more naturally protective than a shepherd?  Maybe.  But, what are the trade offs?  My komondor, for instance, was very independent and intractable.  I've seen many protective chow-chows, but you could not give me one.  Rotties can be great dogs if you can find one that hasn't been bred for size to the exclusion of all the positive traits that made them so popular to begin with.  Filas are another breed with a reputation for natural aggression, so much so, that aggression towards a judge in a show ring is not grounds for disqualification or even deducting points.  Just remember, what ever you have, you have to live with it.  I can't even imagine owning a 180# dog that I would have to restrain from attacking every car that drove by like the guy in the video. 

RFS

i had one of these dogs for 8 years. incredible dog!!!!!!!!!!
when trained correctly.
mine was 130. he was aggressive when commanded to be. other wise he had the temperment of a shepherd.

i was actually thinking about getting another, but by someone who shows their dogs, and sticks to the standard.

you have idiots in every breed. and bigger idiots that want to buy the biggest baddest thing.
guy next door asked me if i know of anyone breeding pitbulls, 60 lbs.
 told him that is not what a pit bull is supposed to be.
go look at a cane corso.
IDIOTS!!!!

oh P.S.
 he found one a pup
 mom was 60 lbs dad was 70!

You have to love the guy in the video that has absolutely no control over his dog.  The dog is chasing cars and the UPS truck.  Size isn't everything, I'll take the agility and intensity of a good working line GSD, Mali or Dutch Shepherd any day over one of those.  As far as intensity goes, the dog was medium level in what it showed in the car.  My GSD's are way more intense than that.  What's so desirable about having a 180 lb protection dog that you can't control, I just don't understand people.  I guess in our world of instant gratification a dog that needs little training to be aggressive and is purely defensive is attractive to some lazy people.  It seems that is how these dogs are marketed in that video.  I'm not very impressed at all.  These dogs may be impressive to those that have little experience with real working dogs and need a defensive dog that will intimidate people with it's sheer size.  Certainly wouldn't suit my needs, I expect a whole lot more from my dogs. 

JMO FWIW,

Jim

I've always loved Ovcharkas, have been seriously researching the breed for use as a property guard, but I would never consider one as a sport prospect. Too large, and as Ambiii said, totally different drive. I've been looking at different livestock and estate guardian breeds, but right now I have neither the turf no the desire for such a creature.

I see no need to own one in a neighborhood, like the guy at the end. If he's that worried about security, he should just buy gun. It won't drag him down the street.

I shudder to think what would happen if he ever lost grip on that leash.

For someone who has apparently owned "guard dogs" all his life, I'm not impressed. He has no control over his Ovcharka, and I can't help but comment that's just irresponsible ownership right there. He says his dog "[05:26] makes decisions when he feels threatened, and he does it quite well." *eyeroll* I would not consider a dog going after cars, a UPS truck, women pushing stollers with babies [03:38], as making good decisions about threats.



I guess in our world of instant gratification a dog that needs little training to be aggressive and is purely defensive is attractive to some lazy people.

I agree 100%. Sad isn't it. It's stuff like this that'll get Ovcharkas the same bad rap pitbulls got saddled with due to idiot owners.

I was thinking the exact same thing while watching that video, a mauling waiting to happen!  I see morons with large breeds who obviously are more impressed with their dogs than their dogs are with them. 

Two examples of Rotties just over the holiday weekend.  A woman with 2 Rotties at the parade, on gentle leaders!  Surprise, surprise... a person walked past with a small dog and one of the Rotties pawed at the gentle leader and off it came, dragged the idiot across the sidewalk until her boyfriend grabbed the lead.  Another last night (not aggressive that I could see) walked past on the way to the fireworks with a pinch collar HANGING around his neck.  Can you say moron?  This just goes to show that people think these powerful dogs can train themselves, and this breed is being marketed for that specific purpose.  Where is the breeder's responsibility?  Shouldn't people who are selling these large, powerful breeds, be making sure the new owners are aware of the dangers and TRAINING their dogs, instead of telling people that little to no training is necessary?  We'll be hearing horror stories about this breed if/when it becomes another popular fad.

I'd say that in the right hands, it could probably be a great dog, but there aren't many capable of understanding just what they're bargaining for, as the general public is not real bright.

That one again.....  I keep expecting to read where the owner looses control.......

There area couple vids on youtube of people doing bitework with them and EVERYONE the dog is freaked out, fear nipping at best. Very defensive, very nervy.

They are BEAUTIFUL dogs. 

Actually "Mike" is just trying to promote a new dog sport  called Turbo Ass Skiing.  This breed of dog is perfect for it because of it's natural desire to chase UPS trucks.