utonagans - Page 1

I have read a few of the comments on here regarding the utonagan. I am not on here to slate anyone or cause trouble just give my opinion.

The utonagan was "born" around 25 years ago as a wolf look a like dog with no wolf content. There is a lot of conflicting stories around and im not getting into all that stuff.

There have been a lot of health issues in this breed in the past, mainly through in breeding, caused by too small a gene pool and money grabbers in my humble opinion.

We at the british utonagan association have been for a few years now researching  into past lines and trying to weed out the unhealthy lines as much as we can. our finding are posted on the website for everyone to see.
but in order to expand the gene pool and bring in better health and try to get the wolf looks, we decided as an association to go out to the founder dogs for a generation then back in again.
Our administrator, Lorraine Niven has done a great job with the research and works tirelessly trying to get good healthy lines.

As too the temperament of these dogs? Believe me that they are very loving and loyal dogs and love human and canine company. I have 2 girls, full utonagan and they are soo swet natured, they have never shown any aggression at all and they have kids practically hanging off thier ears and still just sit there.
Yes, because of the mal and husky they can have a high prey drive, but i have never really had a problem apart from the occasional chasing of rabbits, but i defy any breed not to do that.
as for trainabitltiy they are very intelligent and quick to pick things up. yes is the wrong hands they can be difficult, but any breed will be if the owner is not willing to put the time in...how many people complain about lap dogs biting.

We take our girls to traing and ringcraft and they love it and are very easy to handle. a lot of our dogs in the association have passed thier good citizen and there are pat dogs too. In fact we approached the police dog traing and offered a puppy to them, They came to assess the breed and came to the conclusion that the utes were no good to them as they are too friendly.

We also have a dog which is off the ute x GSD  first outcross I have spoke about above, He is the most loving dog, very clever and his trainability is excellent, picks up this so fast too. As for looks, he is only 8 months old, has just started to show and in his first 3 shows he has won 3 minor puppy classes, 2 puppy classes, 3 best puppy in show, 1 best dog in show and reserve best ute in show. These shows were independantly judged by KC registered judges.
So I think we are heading the right way. He will be put back to a full utonagan, which will be specially picked for health firstly, then looks.

all breeds started somewhere, and yes there are mistakes made in every breed as was ours. Please dont slate the dogs until you actually meet them and can judge for yourself. You will be pleasantly surprised,,,I was.

bazza i was thinking the same thing also are they quite small i have never seen one in person but my the photos i have seen they like quite lean,small

If you visit the BRITISH UTONAGAN ASSOCIATION website you will see the breed standard there and also lots of other info, plus you can go onto the forum and have a look at all the different dogs.

Our association has only done 2 matings recently with the GSD, I cannot tell you if any other organisation is doing this. This was done. as I stated above to try to expand the gene pool as healthy as possible. These dogs are researched fully, making sure they have had all thier health test, the breeders also have to sign a breeders code of ethics. before we go ahead it is also discussed fully with commitee.

We are being as careful as possible with all of this and no matings take place unless all these things are 100% in place

www.britishutonaganassociation.co.uk.

The litter you saw if i am correct is one of our litters.

yes it was a black german shepherd dog as the stud. These pups were to become one of our first British utonagan founder litters.

The utonagan is not a registered breed with the KC as yet. We are working towards that and that is why we are documenting healthr ecords, matings and puppies. As we need years of clear documented paperwork to give them.
The ute in the past was a mess, ie no records kept, in-breeding, breeding lines with known health problems.
So when the BUA was set up they were set on trying as hard as we could to put things right. Sometimes we are fighting against other ute assoc, as they wont share health records etc with us, although we are willing to share with them. so there are still utes out there that are a mess.
As for the price, our assoc has taken the step that because these litters are technically cross breeds we have lowered the price practically in half. Bearing in mind that all pups are eye screened with the BVA. Micro chipped, DNA tested, and had thier first innoculations,and the new owner has a years free membership to the Association, where they will get all the advice and help they need, as we have dog trainers, dog behaviourists and vets in our team. they will also be able to attend shows and members days out and camping weekends etc.

When the ad said they were reg it meant they were registered with the BUA, this is a good thing as it means that the dam and sire has had all health tests etc done, thier ancestory has been researched and breeders are reputable, not in it for the money.

I am by no means an expert in all this, for that you really need to ask Lorriane Niven, but I do believe that if the ute is to have a future and I mean a healthy future, then  this seems to be the way to go. They are a wonderful breed, believe me. I went to the breeder for one as a pet, now I have 3.
And they have all done fantastic in the show circuit

jmo...they look like sucked up wolfs

They look like Native American Indian Dogs (NAIDs), there's GSD in them as well.  I've met a few NAIDs and they were gorgeous dogs.

I think they resemble the NAID too.

Lets be honest though, they will NEVER be a carbon copy of the wolf.....unless we put in the wolf, you would start to get it....which we are NOT prepared to do.
Just try to get as close as we can.

All breeds started somewhere.....ones that have been going for hundred years or more, are every one of them the same as when the breed first started?

We have a long way to go, before we get what we are striving for, but the health of these dogs MUST come first and if that means it takes us a lot longer, then that is what we will do.

There are a lot of the utes that IMO don`t look wolfy at all, one of my girls is an ink mark and has soft ears, but she has the most amazing nature, would I trade har for a ute that looks more wolfy? Never in a million years.