GSD FRAUD - Page 1

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All of you who just want to jump on the bandwagon and criticize lack the vision of someone like Tina. You don't have to like her but you do have to respect what she is doing. She doesn't care if you like her or not; she cares about the dogs. She wants a healthier, sturdier shepherd and because of all her hard work over the years, she wants to call them Shiloh Shepherds. Well, no one deserves it more than she does. She has impeccable record keeping and can trace the background and health and medical records of every litter going all the way back to when she started.

To the math whiz who bothered to total up how many puppies she has per year and how much money per puppy, think about this - do you know any other breeder in existence who knows exactly where every single dog she has ever sold ended up; who knows were every dog is right now and who owns them and what kind of family they went to. Not one ISSR Shiloh Shepherd has ever ended up abandoned or in a shelter or on the street. Tina and the SSDCA can account for every single ISSR Shiloh alive at this very moment. No ISSR Shiloh Shepherd goes homeless. if one needs to be re-homed there are many willing to take them in. No ISSR Shiloh has ever been given up due to aggressive behavior or training issues. The only time ISSR Shilohs are re-homed is due to ill health of the owner or families simply cannot properly care for them due to circumstances beyond their control.

Before you judge, do your homework. If you took the time to really see what she is trying to do you would admire her and not ridicule her.

In conclusion, we have been living with our ISSR Shiloh Shepherd for almost two years now. I have had dogs all my life and I have loved every one of them to death but until our Cooper came to live with us I could never have imagined a more fulfilling experience. ISSR Shiloh Shepherds are exceptional and we could not be happier. I cannot wait to add one or two more ISSR Shiloh Shepherds to our family.

Oh, don't forget to see the movie RED DAWN. It features two ISSR Shiloh Shepherds owned and trained by one of our ISSR Shiloh families. They were chosen for their exceptional size and because they were so easy to train for the roles. They were going to use GSD's until someone connected with the movie just happened to see the beautiful Shilohs and thought they were a better choice. We in the ISSR/SSDCA community are very proud.

Hey, if you're going to insult people and sarcastically call them geniuses, insult their spelling/typing, you may want to use the message board correctly.

Let's clarify this particular non-issue. This is a forum for the FCI defined GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG, an official FCI sanctioned breed, and no other breed or mixed breed of dog, from an official registry or not.

The shiloh or anyother hybrid or GSD derivative is NOT A REAL GERMAN SHEPHERD according to the FCI standard for the GSD breed. So take your discussion about shiloh (non)shepherds and any derivative/hybrids elsewhere to an appropriate forum of your choice.

And if you don't have one, email Oli and see if he will start a forum for you. He has started some for other Non-German Shepherd breeds such as dobermans. But I think they are all official FCI dog breeds. If your shiloh mutts are accepted as a distinct FCI breed, then you should be able to convince Oli to start a forum for you on another distinct part of the pedigreedatabase system he owns and runs.

Your postings on this FCI GSD breed forum are inappropriate, non-sensical, and a waste of space. What else could your motives be than to try and get free advertising? But certainly you must be able to comprehend that any such discussion here on a FCI GSD breed forum that doesn't and never will accept your hybrid or derivatives (watered down genetic contortions) will actually serve to discredit any respectability you are trying to get here.  And if others have imitated your manipulative efforts to gain notoriety and subsequent sales from supposedly inventing a new and better derivative or hybrid, so what?  If you can do it they can do it too, and some may even be able to end with with more absburdly contorted derivatives or hybrids. It's like the pot calling the kettle black !!!!! Get it ??? But each to his/her own. But how about doing it elsewhere because there is no room to discuss you self-made genetic messes here on this FCI GSD breed forum.

Do you seriously think you can ever improve on the selective breeding of the SV members, breeding which has occurred over an extended period of 100 years plus and involves over 1200 clubs in Europe alone all working with experienced SV approved breed wardens, not to mention the other many excellent SV breeders in other countries around the world? Sorry but your supposed breed is not a real SV GSD, never will be and is a joke no matter what your or you buyers and followers claim. But it's stuill a free country so keep on truckin.  But take it elsewhere to an appropriate forum of your peers.

Enuf said, get real or get a new con. This one is worn out and it's time you face it.

THANK YOU PRESTON!!!!!   GSD owners may disagree on show vs. working line but at least both are still GSD not breeding disasters called a new breed.

Breed your goldendoodles, yorkiepoos, boogles and shilohs but the truth is they are mutts.

Well, I see that "someone" got Tina Barber's Thread deleted.   How sad.   You guys/gals are so afraid of your own shadow.....ohhhhhh, Shiloh is a "threat" to the GSD.    How the Hell do you think the GSD was created .... did it just "appear" as a purebred GSD?    Read up !!

Preston -- I addressed you on Tina's thread (which is now deleted).   You ARE on the "wrong side of the Forum."    You are on the General Topics Section -- not the German Shepherd Forum.....so where do you get off telling someone to get off the German Shepherd Forum.    On the General Topics Section (this Section), ALL Breeds of dogs may be discussed.    You look foolish and overbearing.   

Aren't you breathing a sigh of relief, eh, Maggs!  LOL Who would want that thread gone more than you? ROFLMAO

You are utterly moronic admonishing Preston, like he was a six year old. 

Beetree -- You lonely, desperate housewife, please go wash your face.....your nose has been in places it shouldn't -- but, it is oh, sooooo popular !  

I thought Tina's Thread was very informative; but insecure people couldn't "handle it."    Therefore, the sick "group mentality" said DELETE IT !!!!

No comprehension, as always.  GSD people don't see Shilohs as a threat at all, but are simply pointing out the contradictions and untruths in what the Shiloh people are saying.  No GSD person is scared, no one is threatened.  It's the Shiloh people who are threatened.  Didn't you READ Tina's posts?  She herself kept complaining that the GSD people weren't feeling threatened and in trouble by what was happening.