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by LAVK-9 on 18 April 2010 - 02:04
Just wondering about some people's views of neutering. Do you think that all dogs that aren't going to be bred should be neutered? (if owned by a responcible person that wouldn't let them get out and ooops breed)
by vonissk on 18 April 2010 - 03:04
I'm not saying all dogs that aren't going to be bred should be neutered but I have heard testicular cancer is higher in unneutered dogs. Anybody know anything about that?
I am thinking about having my boy neutered. The reason is I have used him once--he added what I wanted and I don't ever see using him again. And I know as long as I have him I can never have another male so that means I will always have girls around. And if I am going to keep them intact in order to show them and maybe breed some day, it's just too much of a pain while they are in heat. Maybe even if he is neutered he will still be a pain but at least he can't get anybody pregnant.
I am thinking about having my boy neutered. The reason is I have used him once--he added what I wanted and I don't ever see using him again. And I know as long as I have him I can never have another male so that means I will always have girls around. And if I am going to keep them intact in order to show them and maybe breed some day, it's just too much of a pain while they are in heat. Maybe even if he is neutered he will still be a pain but at least he can't get anybody pregnant.
by windwalker18 on 18 April 2010 - 03:04
Reasons TO alter... Prevent accidental breedings
...Health, reduction in testicular cancer, Prostate issues
...Behavior, to reduce testosterone and make a male more managable
Reasons not to alter... Prefering the temperment and drive of a whole male
... Feeling that the male in question might be a desireable stud at some time.
Ikon is almost 11 months old right now, and I don't expect, nor plan to breed him. He's definately a MALE with all that brings and It's possible he would settle down and be a bit calmer if altered, but at this point he's manageable. My females are all spayed, and he's not allowed to free roam... so the posibility of accidents is minimal. Those are my considerations...
Right now we don't plan on altering him. I may wish to show him in conformation (needs to be a whole male for that). Right now I enjoy having my boy, and like the way a whole male matures (Secondary Sexual charecteristics). So I'll wait. His pedigree is excellent, he's beautiful, and IF he should develop into a superior dog I am leaving the door open to the 'what if'. He won't be bred without some titles, hips etc anyhow.
...Health, reduction in testicular cancer, Prostate issues
...Behavior, to reduce testosterone and make a male more managable
Reasons not to alter... Prefering the temperment and drive of a whole male
... Feeling that the male in question might be a desireable stud at some time.
Ikon is almost 11 months old right now, and I don't expect, nor plan to breed him. He's definately a MALE with all that brings and It's possible he would settle down and be a bit calmer if altered, but at this point he's manageable. My females are all spayed, and he's not allowed to free roam... so the posibility of accidents is minimal. Those are my considerations...
Right now we don't plan on altering him. I may wish to show him in conformation (needs to be a whole male for that). Right now I enjoy having my boy, and like the way a whole male matures (Secondary Sexual charecteristics). So I'll wait. His pedigree is excellent, he's beautiful, and IF he should develop into a superior dog I am leaving the door open to the 'what if'. He won't be bred without some titles, hips etc anyhow.
by RONNIERUNCO on 18 April 2010 - 04:04
PERISH THE THOUGHT
by Xaver vom Kammberg Owner on 18 April 2010 - 04:04
I have a 10 yr old male that is done siring litters for me. He doesn't have 1 mobile sperm on board. I let him raise the next breeding stud from a 10 week old pup. They are together at all times unless I have one of 2 breeding females in season.
I thought about this a lot.......but I do still want my Senior whole. I can manage him crying to get out of his crate to be with the "ladies" although he did tear a toenail once, which gave me a second thought.
He needs to be at the top of his game to protect and serve our home and property. I am not worried about the testicular cancer. The last dog I neutered at age 10, contracted cancer of the spleen just 6 months after his "oh no" surgery. With my current retired stud, I plan to keep him intact. Why mess with something that isn't broken? The last thing this working line guy wants is to leave the property.
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Trish
I thought about this a lot.......but I do still want my Senior whole. I can manage him crying to get out of his crate to be with the "ladies" although he did tear a toenail once, which gave me a second thought.
He needs to be at the top of his game to protect and serve our home and property. I am not worried about the testicular cancer. The last dog I neutered at age 10, contracted cancer of the spleen just 6 months after his "oh no" surgery. With my current retired stud, I plan to keep him intact. Why mess with something that isn't broken? The last thing this working line guy wants is to leave the property.
www.hasshaus.com
Trish
by Red Sable on 18 April 2010 - 12:04
Cons
Neutered male dogs face risks for certain health conditions later in life. The risk for osteosarcoma, a type of bone cancer, increases significantly if a dog is neutered before his first birthday. Other serious health risks that increase after neutering a male dog include urinary tract cancer, prostate cancer and malignant tumors in the heart, cardiac hemangiosarcoma. Some neutered dogs are also more prone to hypothyroidism or low thyroid levels, reactions to vaccinations and orthopedic problems...
So, in answer to your question, I'd say no.
Neutered male dogs face risks for certain health conditions later in life. The risk for osteosarcoma, a type of bone cancer, increases significantly if a dog is neutered before his first birthday. Other serious health risks that increase after neutering a male dog include urinary tract cancer, prostate cancer and malignant tumors in the heart, cardiac hemangiosarcoma. Some neutered dogs are also more prone to hypothyroidism or low thyroid levels, reactions to vaccinations and orthopedic problems...
So, in answer to your question, I'd say no.
by vonissk on 18 April 2010 - 14:04
Red Sable, thank you for that info. In that case, I think not for my boy. I'll just have to live with whining and crying when the girls come in. I'd rather do that than create other problems.
by beast on 18 April 2010 - 14:04
Good question!
I think it depends all on your abilities and the dog. You risk health issues either way, both arguments have very valid points. My boy had the big snip, I haven't noticed any real changes in his temperament other then he doesn't excessively sniff certain spots on our walks.
I think it depends all on your abilities and the dog. You risk health issues either way, both arguments have very valid points. My boy had the big snip, I haven't noticed any real changes in his temperament other then he doesn't excessively sniff certain spots on our walks.
by Jackal73 on 18 April 2010 - 15:04
I know it's a little belated, but I found this article to be pretty helpful in laying out the current state of knowledge about spay/neuter. It's a bit of a shocker because my vet is still advocating "neuter and decrease the risk of prostate cancer". Decrease risks from things like prostatitis, yes, but not cancer.
by GSDtravels on 18 April 2010 - 16:04
My boy is 3, will never be bred, and will never be altered. I do believe that the whole neuter/spay issue has gotten out of hand and we're passing control of our dogs and our rights. My last boy was neutered only because he had a retained testicle and there are health issues associated with that condition. Anyway, I actually changed vets when I got Drake and was point blank asked, "So, WHEN would you like to make the appointment for neutering?" When it is assumed that every animal MUST be altered, it must also be assumed that every animal owner is irresponsible. I like an intact male with everything it brings, MY CHOICE. PETA and HSUS would have us believe that unaltered dogs have higher health risks, think about that! If you don't have testicles, you can't get testicular cancer, DUH. What they don't tell you, is the increased risk for other health issues, list above. If you are responsible, there is no reason to alter a dog, other than an immediate health concern, IMO.
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