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by harryhenry on 06 April 2010 - 00:04

Please look at these and give your honest opinion. We don't have confidence in our vets opinion.

12 Month Old Czech Female

by harryhenry on 06 April 2010 - 00:04




ALLE GELANDE K9

by ALLE GELANDE K9 on 06 April 2010 - 01:04

1ST WHAT IS THE DOGS AGE

BlackthornGSD

by BlackthornGSD on 06 April 2010 - 01:04

First post says 12 months.

Femoral heads are flattened. I can't tell from this picture of the xray whether there's arthritic remodeling, and I am kinda guessing at the "coverage" or depth of the socket. (Some pictures of xrays just don't show detail well, or maybe it's my laptop screen.) Looks like a straight xray, which is good, although you can't see the knees, which OFA requires to make sure the legs are being held straight and both the same.

I'd say send it in, but my initial thinking is borderline/retest in 12 months.

What did your vet say?

Christine
blackthornkennel.com

by harryhenry on 06 April 2010 - 01:04

The vets exact words were they are good but had issues. She wouldnt tell us if they would pass or fail.

by Nans gsd on 06 April 2010 - 02:04

A lot of times they don't want to expose themselves;  a lot  of times they really DON'T know, and a lot of times they don't want to admit their X-rays are shit.

So, given all that:  I don't mind putting myself out there:  If this is approximately a 12 month old dog ( give or take a couple of months) I think they look pretty good.   Older of course even better.  Does this bitch jump??  I am curious to know, you can't do anything about it now but I would bet this bitch is a jumper by these x-rays.  If this bitch is younger than 2;  I would keep her down off her hips and do not let her jump.  Otherwise they look pretty darn good. 

DDR-DSH

by DDR-DSH on 06 April 2010 - 09:04

Wait and see what they look like in another year. I don't think they'd get better than a fair, if they pass. But, this is a functionally sound animal and may never have any problems at all.. probably won't, really. Sometime I should post some of my old x-rays from 35 years ago. You'll see what bad hips are really looking like... You might consider now to go for the 'a' stamp. Go for that much, at least..

DDR-DSH

by DDR-DSH on 06 April 2010 - 09:04

I think your vet summed it up pretty well. There are no significant changes, YET, but the conformation of the joints is less than optimal, so there may be changes later on. A hip joint is pretty much like a machine bearing in an engine.. the more surface area in the joint which is touching with a close, even gap, the less stress on any one point. There are small irregularities in the joint surfaces and there could be a closer fit.

I think that OFA is trying to promote an ideal hip joint conformation according to a theoretical breed profile. They are right, in a way, really.. But their breed profile is not allowing for enough individual variations (which do exist), and anyway.. as some people have pointed out, we are not just breeding a pair of hips, but the complete dog. Take everything else into context, as well. And, remember that she could produce better than herself, according to who you breed her to. If most of her siblings had normal hips, she'd be a much better bet for breeding than the best bitch in a litter with more dysplastic siblings.

by CORGILOVER on 06 April 2010 - 11:04

I'M NOT A DVM, HOWEVER, I WAS A VET TECH. FOR MANY YEARS, AS WELL AS SHOWING AND BREEDING MY PEMBROKE WELSH CORGIS.  IN MY OPINION, YOU SHOULD FEEL VERY LUCKY !  THE SOCKETS ARE DEEP, AND THE HEADS OF THE FEMURS APPPEAR ROUND AND WITHOUT DEGENERATION.  THE FEMUR SETS DEEP IN THE SOCKET.  UNFORTUNATELY CORGIS HAVE GOTTEN A PREDISPOSITION TO HIP DISPLASIA ALONG WITH MANY OTHER BREEDS.  I HAD A MALE CORGI THAT HAD 2 FOUR POINT MAJORS, OWNER HANDLED.  HE WAS OUT OF A OFA EXCELLENT SIRE AND A OFA GOOD DAM.  I HAD HIM RADIOGRAPHED PRIOR TO BREEDING HIM, "JUST TO HAVE HIM CERTIFIED".  TO MY SUPRISE AND DISDAIN, HE HAD MODERATE DISPLASIA.  IF SOMEONE READ YOUR RADIOGRAPHS AS BEING DISPLASTIC, I WOULD SEEK OUT ANOTHER OPINION.  IT LOOKS IF YOU HAVE A GOOD DOG!

by SitasMom on 06 April 2010 - 12:04

the ofa will happily give you a preliminary reading for only $30

http://www.offa.org/hdappbw.pdf






 


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