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by GSDoogieMom10 on 31 March 2010 - 15:03
by 1doggie2 on 31 March 2010 - 15:03
by GSDoogieMom10 on 31 March 2010 - 16:03
by nonacona60 on 31 March 2010 - 16:03
How old is your pup? How long have you had him.? Regardless, you are doing the responsbile thing.
A while back, I did training and little breeding with German Bred GSDs. Its has been quite a few years. I had taken a break and got into Showing and breeding American bred GSD. I achieved my goal of attaining an AKC champion and many others earned points towards their championship. I also was the co-breeder on a male that went to Westminister. For the last several yrs I have been doing alot of research on the German bred GSD's. Seems the problem of testicles is common. With the Ameican bred, thats was RARELY ever heard of. I'm not saying that it was not happening, but not near as much as with German bred gsds. Does the German conformation judge check and actually feel for testicles like they do in the American conformation shows? I have never really watched a German conformation show, so I don't know.
by GSDoogieMom10 on 31 March 2010 - 16:03
My pup is just bout 7 mnths old I got him when he was almost 3 mnths old.. Im not familiar with conformation showing in either american or german so im not sure bout the testicle problems in either.. I was planning on breeding once I learned more bout the bloodlines ( which Im not completely illiterate ) but still want to further my knowledge and do it right.. But i ave to decided on just keeping my pup and working some agility an PP with him before I decided to get me another male and breed.. Thanks
by Prager on 31 March 2010 - 16:03
I would not neuter such dog. Why would you? I would instruct the vet in no uncertain terms just to remove the undescended testicle in order to prevent cancer in the area of undescended testicle. If he refuses to do that then I would go to different vet.
Neutering (especially in young age) will most likely disable the dog from development of his temperament and a bone structure as a "male". Dog in most cases develops weight problem which is hormonal and will not get better even if you starve him and run him 10 mils a day. Dog looses drive to work . Such dog may die prematurely of heart attack or stroke. Neutered dog may also develop aggression to females and females may be aggressive to such male since sexual dimorphism is not present.
Spaying females leads in 80%+- females to estrogen deficiency and subsequently a thyroid problem. Dog feels miserable as you can imagine, loses drive to do anything, gains water , gets fat and may die prematurely of heart attack. Such dog may also develop an aggression towards males due to loss of sexual dimorphism.
I am offering to say that neutering (or spaying) a healthy dog has no virtue what so ever if you are responsible dog owner. Except that it pays for vets mortgage ....that is.
Prager Hans
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by GSDoogieMom10 on 31 March 2010 - 17:03
by TessJ10 on 31 March 2010 - 17:03
"Neutering (especially in young age) will most likely disable the dog from development of his temperament and a bone structure as a "male". Dog in most cases develops weight problem which is hormonal and will not get better even if you starve him and run him 10 mils a day. Dog looses drive to work . Such dog may die prematurely of heart attack or stroke. Neutered dog may also develop aggression to females and females may be aggressive to such male since sexual dimorphism is not present."
I don't know where this is from but it isn't true. The weight thing is a myth. I have a rescue GSD male who was neutered at a very young age and is now almost 5 yo. He is most certainly not aggressive to females. He is also masculine looking and he is lean, with no weight problem whatsoever, and if he has lost drive, then I'd hate to see what his drive level would've been otherwise, as it's HUGE now.
I agree that there are issues with neutering, and I know that many people only have the vet remove the undescended testicle, however, I don't necessarily see a problem in the OP having both testicles removed for this dog. I think stating that a male dog "will most likely" have these issues is irresponsible - it simply is not true.
ETA: the quote above may perhaps be talking about very early neutering - iow, MUCH younger than 6-7 months of age. If so, then this certainly does not apply to the OP's dog.
by jc.carroll on 31 March 2010 - 17:03
I prefer to neuter a male after he's fully matured (around 3yrs or so) so he developes masculine characteristics, but pet females I prefer to spay before their first heat (around 6mo or so).
I've known more than one intact female who has come down with pyometra... killed my uncle's best hunting dog when they tried to do surgery, and her uterus ruptured.
I firmly any dog not eventually planned for conformation showing or breeding should be altered.
by Slamdunc on 31 March 2010 - 17:03
If you have already had him neutered he will still be fine to work in agility, SchH or PP. Your vet should have discussed the option of just having the undescended testicle removed and not neutering him. This won't make him a big couch potatoe, you can still work and compete with him if you like. Conformation shows naturally are out of the question, but you can still do all the dog sports and PP. I'm sure he's still a great dog.
Jim
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