WHO CAN YOU TRUST BUYING A GSD HERE???? - Page 1

My self i bought a gsd male 2 years ago i drove 4 hours to the airport to pick him  up i was so excited I let him out of the crate and seen he had blood in his stool.Took him to the vet and found out that 1 testicle dogs are prone for cancer.After buying him and flight and vet bills i had 3,000 us and my gsd passed away.I could have tried to resell him or put him down but i choose to give him a quality of life and treat him as if i had owned him as a puppy.After this my wife was devistated and we decided not to buy another gsd.Now we have healed and we have been looking for a few months and have placed an add for a reasonably priced male but keep getting offers from 2,000 to 8,000. We are hesitant to spend that kind of money for fear of all the horror stories we here about on here breeders and non breeders switching dogs,selling sick dogs,not sending dogs at all.What kind of human beings are you?When did you lose your souls for the all mighty dollar or euro?For what shall it profit a man to gain the whole world only to lose his soul?I am looking to spend 1,000 to 2,000 with flight included but with all the dishonest people here and over seas robbing people we will probably not buy from here thats a shame is it not?Does anyone really care about there german shepherds?Because you can say that all you want but talk is cheap people do not walk it like they talk it.I hope to find someone here who really cares about there shepherds because thats who i want to buy from.Show me do not talk about it.If you have a dog with 1 testicle or a scissor bite or bad hips etc..They should not be priced over 1,000 but yet i have people trying to sell me gsd with bad hips for 2,000.You know one day you reap what you sew and im not without sin but come on im sure if your honest you can do more business then if you continually rip people off.........Care more about the german shepherd than the dollar or euro and maybe you can feel better about yourself and have more respect for yourself.This site is becoming a game of chance instead of honorable breeders site.Just my opinion thanks Jim

Hi Jim, I am so sorry you and your wife had such a bad experience.  I notice that you did not put where you are located in your post.  I see the map, but it does not say what state, or country for that matter, that you are in.  You also did not state what type of dog you are looking for, apart from healthy.  You might be within a hundred miles of what you are looking for.  Give that information and someone may be able to point the way.   Best to you.   Marcia

 www.vomhausmiller.com has showline and working line, puppies and adults. i bought my girl spunky aka zippy vom haus miller from them. she is showline. their showlines run $1,500 to $3,ooo depending on quality. workinglines are a little bit less, i think.  very very nice people. they asked what i was looking for and connie thought spunky would be a good match so we took her. she is an awesome dog, calm, confident, rock-solid nerves, learns tricks easy, beautiful, loyal, obedient, not to forget, healthy, too! my personal recommendation. just my 2 cents. got a 24 month health guarantee and signed contract when i purchased her. some gorgeous gorgeous dogs on their site. check it out.

Ok, Jim, I see you had a bad experience, but what's your point in that post? It goes from sounding like you want another dog, to then crititcizing everyone on the board and saying you won't buy from here. At no point do you state what you want in a dog, so that's why I ask...what's your point? Do you want breeders/sellers names, or are you just griping? An honest question.

If you really want a dog and are not just venting, it would help to say what kind of GSD you want, where you are located, what age you're looking for, etc.  I can almost guarantee that we could help you if you gave us something to go on.

Maybe I'm naive, but I still say there are more good than bad people out there; it's just the bad ones that get all the press. Knock on wood, I have NEVER had a bad dog buying experience. I also have never and would never do anything unethical to my puppy buyers. I care way more about the dogs than the people, and will only sell pups/dogs to absolutely top notch people, and if I act like a dishonest bitch (instead of the brutally honest bitch I'm always accused of being, LOL), how am I going to attract top notch homes for my puppies? It simply doesn't pay.

The REAL dog world is very very small. It seems to be newbies who stumble into these traps set by @$$holes looking to make a quick buck. I also notice that it's usually on subpar dogs. The absolute best dogs seem to be owned by people who care a great deal; in fact, in my experience, they are the people who are the most generous and honest-they have the best quality dogs and they do so because they care about the breed and are not simply in it for the money; this quality of person is way less likely to attempt some dirty scheme. JMO.

Jim :

          I,m sorry to hear of your experience but not everyone on this site is a crook your painting with a very wide brush here.
It woud help to kow what your wantting to do with the dog Family pet,Train,ect... There are several very good rescues here that could set you up with a very nice pet GSD.

Your first mistake is the thinking that 1,000 to 2,000 will buy you quality, just telling someone what your willing to spend is in error.
No price guaranties quality.

Do not blame the website you visit, that is irrelevant.

Don't purchase a dog from someone you do not know unless you can see the dogs, the owner, and his operation first hand.
Or make sure you check reputations and references before doing business with a stranger.

Then you must know what your looking at, thats up to you.

Last mistake is thinking a crook will somehow do a little soul searching and change his ways.

Get smart, make wiser choices.

Moons.

www.eurosportk9.com has wonderful working line dogs.

Decker, not much of a critical thinker are you? 

"The only reason must be that there is something wrong with them." ROFLMAO.

Thank for the laugh this morning. It was just what I needed.

This seriously has to be one of the dumbest statements I have heard in a very long time.  Did you think about it at all before you posted it?

Since this thread was started by a newbie, and there are countless others who will read this thread, I will explain just a few of the MILLIONS of reasons very good adult dogs are for sale.

1) Hey, guys, hard to believe, but did you know some people buy/raise/sell dogs as a business? Yep. It's true. So, some dogs are for sale just because that's what the people who have them do. We're not going to get into the "right or wrong" of it here; this is simply a fact and has zero reflection on the dog in many cases. 

2) Personal reasons, not the least of which is MONEY. Yes, some people have nice dogs who are worth money, and maybe they need the money. So they sell the dog. Is this dog now a piece of crap with something wrong with it?

3) Dog is not a good fit for their home. Does this automatically mean there is something wrong with the dog? Or maybe the owner is an idiot? Or maybe they have a very legitimate reason for selling the dog....you really can't judge until you know the whole story.

4) Divorce- can't agree on who keeps dog- so no one keeps dog. Again, I refer back to the "owners are idiots" reason for selling the dog, but this is something I hear of more and more. How is this a reflection of the dog?

Just for fun, I'll tell my personal reason for the only dog (of mine) that I ever sold. I was pregnant and extremely sick. I have 7 dogs and 3 horses. I was in and out of the hospital for 2 months. I had to have someone else stay at my house to take care of the animals. NO ONE handles them the same way I do- it's simply not possible no matter how careful they are; if you don't live with these dogs 24/7, you cannot comprehend the lengths some will go to to surprise you and get into trouble. I had 2 that would literally try to kill each other if they got half a chance. I could not risk having them on the same property with someone other than myself in charge. So, I took the one w/most potential to do something, and sold him to someone I know and trust for a decent sized PD for use as a dual purpose PSD. They paid THOUSANDS for him....not 1 or 2. It was a win-win; he was safely off my property and he was going to be put to good use in line with his potential. WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THIS DOG?

I hope I made my point.

Not necessarily, Decker.  Some people sell adult dogs because they were kept back as puppies but in the end did not quite live up to the breeders expectations for show or work, or some bigger scale breeders will  keep back a few puppies and then later decide which one of a group to stay with. There is not necessarily anything wrong with these dogs as companions.  Other dogs may have some minor defects, like missing teeth, which will also not affect them as companions, though obviously the buyer should always be made aware of these things and of the reasons for selling. Dogs that turn out to have severe HD should be carefully rehomed, not sold. if you are buying a dog over 1 year old this information should be available. You do have to be careful but  I thought Jenni's post made some good points.