HIP EXPERTS- What's your opinion on this xray?

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by Jenni78 on 12 February 2010 - 23:02

Just for fun and education- looking for opinions on BOTH the hips themselves AND the positioning. If anyone else has old dog xrays to post, I'd like to see them.

THE SUBJECT: Old dog- not super old, but 7(ish) or so. High energy, BIIIIIGGGG dog- very very hard on her body, too. Knowing the dog, I'm surprised they aren't a whole lot worse! Is it me, or is the leg on the right side of the film pushed in too far, making that hip look even less in the socket?

Sorry about the quality; this is a real film that I held up to the window, so excuse the window pane, LOL. The exposure's pretty bad, too. It's the best I could do w/my window and a camera.

by eichenluft on 12 February 2010 - 23:02

Positioning is not great - pelvis is twisted, legs should be pulled down more, knees should be rotated in. The hips are "ok" for an older dog - but show wear and tear and arthritic/bony changes in the femur heads and thickened necks. I don't think this dog would pass OFA now, but may have as a younger dog (with better positioning) as the sockets and seating don't look too bad to me.

molly

by Nans gsd on 12 February 2010 - 23:02

Fair, I would like to see hip on our right further in the socket, a deeper socket both need to be a little tighter, seem loose but maybe not too bad for 7 years old. Still say fair given the quality and positioning.

by yoshy on 13 February 2010 - 00:02

eichenluft,

question- do you think he may not have pushed the knees down far enough due to she is an older dog and the ligaments dont stretch as much?

is this the dog you took in jenni? If so depending on how long she was in the boarding kennel that may have tightened her up as well not getting sufficient exercise.

My opinions on rating coninside with with his. However you could probably get a fair if they take into account all the variations. I think your hopes lye with whom grade them.

by Jenni78 on 13 February 2010 - 00:02

Thank you two. I sure wish vets were better at positioning; why is it we get better educated people on an internet forum? LOL

For the wear and tear and the temperament of the dog, they are really not bad, but I'm still curious as to how they compare to other older working line dogs.

by Elkoorr on 13 February 2010 - 00:02

right hip looks good, dogs left hip shows some degenerative changes. still not bad for 7 year old. but why do I think male and none GSD?

by Jenni78 on 13 February 2010 - 01:02

Yoshy, no, I don't get her until Monday, and she's only 2.

Elkoorr....it's a male. My bad. A woman owns him and I had "her" on the brain since it's "her" dog. But it is definitely all GSD. Big SOB though. Bouncing off the walls type.

by Elkoorr on 13 February 2010 - 02:02

LOL... guess I was thinking of a Lab or Golden as the midline looks a bit rounded.

by phgsd on 13 February 2010 - 08:02

Not an old dog, but here is one of mine at 3.5 years old. I had her x-rayed at about 7-8 months the first time, so I knew the one hip was bad. I talked to the vet about her a few years ago, and told him I didn't really want to sedate her for xrays if I didn't have to, but I did want to see how they looked. He offered to try without any sedation, and if he couldn't get a good shot, he wouldn't charge me.
Positioning might not be 100% perfect, but it was good enough. She is 6.5 years old now, I haven't redone her hip x-rays since the one below. She's still shown no signs of pain or discomfort from her hips which is pretty amazing to me. She is an active dog though and is on the small side at about 55 lbs.

by Jenni78 on 13 February 2010 - 12:02

Thanks for posting that film. Your girl's one hip is fine. Did she injure herself that you know of? Is the bad hip her left one?

This is a GREAT article: www.showdogsupersite.com/hips.html

Next question....in the film I posted, what do you guys think; is that dog really dysplastic, or is that wear and tear from a huge-ass dog doing ridiculous stunts for 7 yrs? Good or bad hips genetically?

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