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by Prager on 12 February 2010 - 03:02
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com
by LAVK-9 on 12 February 2010 - 03:02
Tracking? As in having say placed food somewhere hidden and having it find it on it's own without a command?
~L~
by Gustav on 12 February 2010 - 03:02
by VomMarischal on 12 February 2010 - 03:02
by Mindhunt on 12 February 2010 - 05:02
I woud love it if you gave some more details about what you test for and how. I always learn new and useful things from you. At least provide a link to where you describe what you do.........
by yoshy on 12 February 2010 - 15:02
I am very curious to the break down of your assessments and how you are bypassing the fact that the dogs are groom/trained from a very early age to get to the core of the dog. Most of us have learned that titles mean little when speaking of the true temperament of the dogs and the problems that can be masked through training for the sport field just as you have mentioned. Also how you would segregate the issues that would be environmental ( do to insufficient raising/training/experiences/developement) from those which are genetically predispositioned?
Lee
by Held on 12 February 2010 - 15:02
Interesting concept,i wonder if anyone else ever thought about this.
Also Yoshy,are sure about this "Most of us have learned that titles mean little when speaking of the true temperament of the dogs and the problems that can be masked through training" because most of the so called breeders only breed dogs if dogs have titles,so what does that seem to say to you.Have a nice one.
by yoshy on 12 February 2010 - 15:02
IMHO I like to see both- the natural disposition(for the work required) and mental stability of the dog followed suit with working titles. Titles should only be a piece in the puzzle.
I think many of us realize titles can be used as a marketing campaign, the flaws can be masked on the field,
and titles dont speak to the true ability of the dog besides in that particular discipline. So with that said I think there
are still a percentage of people whom realize this and breed for the total package the best they can. However
you can argue that til your blue in the face and you will still have a vast many breeders whom dont think as many
of us do.
by Slamdunc on 12 February 2010 - 16:02
I think titles are important for several reasons. You have to evaluate the individual dog regardless of the titles and look at the strengths and weaknesses of the dog objectively. Titles do show a certain commitment on the breeders part and that the dog has accomplished something. Working titles do mean something to me. A SchH 3 dog that is V rated KKL1 A has accomplished something and should have good structure. I understand the difference between club trials and National events or the WUSV or BSP.
If I'm looking for a puppy I want to get it from a litter where the stud and dam have accomplished something tangible. I want to be able to research the dogs and speak to knowledgeable people that have seen the dog. I want feedback from people that have Seen the dog work or have worked the dog. Ideally, I'd like to see the dogs but that is not always possible.
Titles are not everything, but I wouldn't consider a dog from untitled parents. If we disregard titles altogether then there will be no hope for the breed.
JMO FWIW,
Jim
by Keith Grossman on 12 February 2010 - 16:02
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