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by Micky D on 20 January 2010 - 16:01
We interrupt this thread for a joke:
| While trying to escape through Pakistan, Osama Bin Laden found a bottle on the sand and picked it up. Suddenly, a female genie rose from the bottle and with a smile said, "Master, may I grant you one wish?" Osama responded, "You ignorant, unworthy daughter-of-a-dog! Don't you know who I am? I don't need any common woman giving me anything." The shocked genie said, "Please, I must grant you a wish or I will be returned to that bottle forever." Osama thought a moment, then grumbled about the impertinence of the woman and said, "Very well, I want to awaken with three American women in my bed in the morning. So just do it and be off with you." The annoyed genie said, "So be it!" and disappeared. The next morning Bin Laden woke up in bed with Lorena Bobbitt, Tonya Harding, and Nancy Pelosi at his side. His penis was gone, his knees were broken, and he had no health insurance. God is good. |
by Two Moons on 20 January 2010 - 17:01
by Oskar1 on 20 January 2010 - 19:01
Ziegenfarm, Thank You. Hard to believe that peopel send humantary help to peopel in Haiti, but yet rfuse to help their own peopel ! How hard is it, to remember the "Bush" years ?
Ulli
Ulli
by Micky D on 20 January 2010 - 21:01
To Ulli
If you are referring to Katrina, please remember that the US is made up of 50 states. Those states are charged with first response in a natural disaster. Florida seems to do pretty well with that concept, as does Mississippi, next door neighbor to hapless Louisiana. Please note that Mississippi is one of the poorest states, so it has no more or less capability to get through historic hurricanes.
Louisiana DELAYED the federal government from stepping in for the first few days. Governor (now ex Governor, thank heavens) Blanco hemmed and hawed and wrung her hands, why, I do not know. Mayor Nagin was just as bad. I saw a news feed before the storm hit. He actually said, when asked if the city was planning evacuations, that "it would do no good to send busses to get the people, because they would not go". I heard this. After the storm, we saw huge parking lots, filled with busses that could have at least gotten the elderly and children out.
I am sorry, but the Democrats and the media screamed 24 hours a day with the mantra, "Bush's Fault". Well, I disagree. Bush tried to get those ignorant Democrat politicians to evacuate BEFORE the storm. Bush ASKED to send troops before the storm. The Governor would not give permission. Those are the facts.
If you are referring to Katrina, please remember that the US is made up of 50 states. Those states are charged with first response in a natural disaster. Florida seems to do pretty well with that concept, as does Mississippi, next door neighbor to hapless Louisiana. Please note that Mississippi is one of the poorest states, so it has no more or less capability to get through historic hurricanes.
Louisiana DELAYED the federal government from stepping in for the first few days. Governor (now ex Governor, thank heavens) Blanco hemmed and hawed and wrung her hands, why, I do not know. Mayor Nagin was just as bad. I saw a news feed before the storm hit. He actually said, when asked if the city was planning evacuations, that "it would do no good to send busses to get the people, because they would not go". I heard this. After the storm, we saw huge parking lots, filled with busses that could have at least gotten the elderly and children out.
I am sorry, but the Democrats and the media screamed 24 hours a day with the mantra, "Bush's Fault". Well, I disagree. Bush tried to get those ignorant Democrat politicians to evacuate BEFORE the storm. Bush ASKED to send troops before the storm. The Governor would not give permission. Those are the facts.
by MaggieMae on 20 January 2010 - 22:01
Ulli -- you are so wrong in your belief about what happened regarding Katrina. It was NOT Bush's fault. Micky D's post above states the facts of what happened -- it was the incompetent Democrat Governor and Mayor that did nothing to evacuate the people.
by Oskar1 on 21 January 2010 - 08:01
Hi Micky, Hi Maggie,
I used to live in KC for 4 years during Bush, and even thought that I only drove a truck through all states, I am aware that I might not know it all. (oh, I am sorry, not all states, never have been to Alaska)
Actually, I did not refer to Kathrina, but I think it is a huge drawback to the US that now the Reps have a position to block any changes there might be. I was very pleased to see that it was possible to bring , for instance, the healthcare, on a right pass. But I bet this now goes down the drain. The US is the only western country that I know of, that has not yet a system for it.
On my last visit to the US in 2008, I have been in your capitol for a week, wanted to see the Smithsonian (speliing?) Museum and take a picture with Lincoln and me. I have to say, it was great to see the White House and everything else. But one thing that gave me the chills, I have never ever seen so many homeless peopel in a world city, as in Washington.
When going back to the Hotel, near Dupont Circle, at night, you had to watch your step, to not trip over a sleeping person. We thought of giving out some money, but if you did, you were surrounded by a dozent of them pretty quick.
Barak wont be the "cure it all" for everything, neither will everybody like him, but at least, he is trying to do the right thing. To aspect that he would be able to clean up after Bush, in a years time, that is not possible.
But he did more, for instance, for the enviorement and devolloping new ways to relay more on natural resources, in a years time, than Bush ever did in 2 terms. Oh well, I guess, we could argue much longer. But that's not what I was looking for.
On a side note, and I sure does not want to sound sarkastic, it was probably due to his big concerns, that it took Mr. Bush 3 days, to decide to go down there and take a look for himself, how his fellow Americans are doing after Kathrina hit.
Regards Ulli
I used to live in KC for 4 years during Bush, and even thought that I only drove a truck through all states, I am aware that I might not know it all. (oh, I am sorry, not all states, never have been to Alaska)
Actually, I did not refer to Kathrina, but I think it is a huge drawback to the US that now the Reps have a position to block any changes there might be. I was very pleased to see that it was possible to bring , for instance, the healthcare, on a right pass. But I bet this now goes down the drain. The US is the only western country that I know of, that has not yet a system for it.
On my last visit to the US in 2008, I have been in your capitol for a week, wanted to see the Smithsonian (speliing?) Museum and take a picture with Lincoln and me. I have to say, it was great to see the White House and everything else. But one thing that gave me the chills, I have never ever seen so many homeless peopel in a world city, as in Washington.
When going back to the Hotel, near Dupont Circle, at night, you had to watch your step, to not trip over a sleeping person. We thought of giving out some money, but if you did, you were surrounded by a dozent of them pretty quick.
Barak wont be the "cure it all" for everything, neither will everybody like him, but at least, he is trying to do the right thing. To aspect that he would be able to clean up after Bush, in a years time, that is not possible.
But he did more, for instance, for the enviorement and devolloping new ways to relay more on natural resources, in a years time, than Bush ever did in 2 terms. Oh well, I guess, we could argue much longer. But that's not what I was looking for.
On a side note, and I sure does not want to sound sarkastic, it was probably due to his big concerns, that it took Mr. Bush 3 days, to decide to go down there and take a look for himself, how his fellow Americans are doing after Kathrina hit.
Regards Ulli
by MaggieMae on 21 January 2010 - 15:01
You are entitled to your opinion.
Finally, Americans are "waking up" to the fact that "O" is a "snake-oil" salesman -- uses a lot of "bait and switch." We don't want what he is selling.
by Micky D on 21 January 2010 - 15:01
Hi Ulli,
Thank you for your reply. As for healthcare, the polls show there is a majority of the population against socializing our system. As we are a constitutional representative republic, the citizens of a given state have the right to elect those people who will represent them the best. Also, since we are not a monarchy, nor a totalitarian state, the citizens of this country realize they get better government as a whole, when there is a balance of some sort between the power shared by the 2 major political parties. The dems still have 59 slots to the repub's whopping 41. Would you feel better if the repubs said "it's not fair not to give all available slots to the dems, here, let us resign"????
Our healthcare system is far from perfect, I'll be the first to admit. That said, we do not feel giving our bumbling government the power of life and death over all of us does one iota to preserve the quality of healthcare, much less the quality of medical research & development available in the US today. Not only that, the majority of citizens here are very, very alarmed at the amount of debt the democrat party has heaped upon the heads of our children and grand-children already. We simply cannot afford to socialize our healthcare system without instituting a severe form of rationing.
The polls show most Americans do not believe nor trust our Congress (both House of Representatives and Senate), nor do we trust the President. If you like him, that's wonderful. Most of us do not. The majority of the people aren't willing to trust this bunch of corrupt individuals to craft a change in the health system most of us feel is fundamentally a good one.
We do need to fill in the cracks. We need to get rid of the laws that prevent the citizens of one state from purchasing insurance in another state. That would go a long way to forcing insurance companies to lower costs. We also need to put a cap on the tort system and reign in the bloated fat-cat lawyers who suck so much money from our system and who force doctors to carry horribly expensive malpractice insurance.
We could simply take a portion of the trillions upon trillions of deficit dollars and BUY policies for those currently uninsured cheaper than we could dismantle and rebuild our present system. But no, the politicians aren't about helping those who elected them, it's about putting their muddy boots on the collective neck of the taxpayer.
Thank you for your reply. As for healthcare, the polls show there is a majority of the population against socializing our system. As we are a constitutional representative republic, the citizens of a given state have the right to elect those people who will represent them the best. Also, since we are not a monarchy, nor a totalitarian state, the citizens of this country realize they get better government as a whole, when there is a balance of some sort between the power shared by the 2 major political parties. The dems still have 59 slots to the repub's whopping 41. Would you feel better if the repubs said "it's not fair not to give all available slots to the dems, here, let us resign"????
Our healthcare system is far from perfect, I'll be the first to admit. That said, we do not feel giving our bumbling government the power of life and death over all of us does one iota to preserve the quality of healthcare, much less the quality of medical research & development available in the US today. Not only that, the majority of citizens here are very, very alarmed at the amount of debt the democrat party has heaped upon the heads of our children and grand-children already. We simply cannot afford to socialize our healthcare system without instituting a severe form of rationing.
The polls show most Americans do not believe nor trust our Congress (both House of Representatives and Senate), nor do we trust the President. If you like him, that's wonderful. Most of us do not. The majority of the people aren't willing to trust this bunch of corrupt individuals to craft a change in the health system most of us feel is fundamentally a good one.
We do need to fill in the cracks. We need to get rid of the laws that prevent the citizens of one state from purchasing insurance in another state. That would go a long way to forcing insurance companies to lower costs. We also need to put a cap on the tort system and reign in the bloated fat-cat lawyers who suck so much money from our system and who force doctors to carry horribly expensive malpractice insurance.
We could simply take a portion of the trillions upon trillions of deficit dollars and BUY policies for those currently uninsured cheaper than we could dismantle and rebuild our present system. But no, the politicians aren't about helping those who elected them, it's about putting their muddy boots on the collective neck of the taxpayer.
by Keith Grossman on 21 January 2010 - 15:01
"Not only that, the majority of citizens here are very, very alarmed at the amount of debt the democrat party has heaped upon the heads of our children and grand-children already."
You've got to be kidding; right? Bush was given a budget surplus which he turned into a deficit in no time.
You've got to be kidding; right? Bush was given a budget surplus which he turned into a deficit in no time.
by Micky D on 21 January 2010 - 15:01
"You've got to be kidding; right? Bush was given a budget surplus which he turned into a deficit in no time. "
If you look at the math, TARP and the "stimulus" has literally doubled the debt held from 1776-2007. Congress, not the president, controls the pursestrings. We've had a democrat majority for how long now? Certainly for the last 4 years or so of Bush's term. And, we've had a bunch of spineless republicans before that, cowering every time their fellows across the aisle bellowed about bipartisanship and fairness. Remember Bush crowing about working with Senator Kennedy?
Bush was a flawed leader in many ways. He spent too much, (or didn't veto enough Congressional spending) and he bought into the lie that "everyone in America deserves to own his own house". So, he lapped the sub-prime mortgage fiasco right up, and went along with the atrocities going on within Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Bush did nothing to stop our financial situation from becoming untenable. The dems and Obama have followed his legacy a thousand-fold.
If you look at the math, TARP and the "stimulus" has literally doubled the debt held from 1776-2007. Congress, not the president, controls the pursestrings. We've had a democrat majority for how long now? Certainly for the last 4 years or so of Bush's term. And, we've had a bunch of spineless republicans before that, cowering every time their fellows across the aisle bellowed about bipartisanship and fairness. Remember Bush crowing about working with Senator Kennedy?
Bush was a flawed leader in many ways. He spent too much, (or didn't veto enough Congressional spending) and he bought into the lie that "everyone in America deserves to own his own house". So, he lapped the sub-prime mortgage fiasco right up, and went along with the atrocities going on within Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Bush did nothing to stop our financial situation from becoming untenable. The dems and Obama have followed his legacy a thousand-fold.
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