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by LeathanK9 on 23 December 2009 - 20:12
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/bulletins_read/349499.html
I looked at other breeders and found one i've decided to go with. Not the one that i talked about in that thread. when i told him i was no longer interested because he did not OFA his dogs except for the prelims he sent me back an email that ended with
"but all in all if your mind is made up and your sold all on the ofa thing then i wish you the best of luck"
so I definately feel i have made the right decision in not getting a dog from him. I think he is definately a backyard or hobby breeder, not a real breeder.
"keep in mind as well that the east german,czech,slovack and so forth working lines are less prone to hip and health problems as aposed to the west german showlines...they are overbred and have a higher hip/health issue rate along with the german show ring the schutzhund routines are half assed and alot of those dogs have nerve and temperment issues....look on youtube at the seiger show in san jose californis for 2008 and you will see how many dogs either run off the field or come off the sleeves, or don't respond to commands. but all in all if your mind is made up and your sold all on the ofa thing then i wish you the best of luck"
by LeathanK9 on 23 December 2009 - 20:12
Leathan
by Mystere on 23 December 2009 - 20:12
by SitasMom on 23 December 2009 - 20:12
remember to do you research. don't drop the ball now!
find out as much a possible about the dog and dam of the puppy you want. Check the pedigrees. If the parents have certified, yet many of the for-parents have questionalbe hips or their hips are not certified - its not good. If you can, check the puppies of both parent dogs.....
What guarentee does this breeder have? Are there any loopholes?
Good luck and enjoy your puppy.
by LeathanK9 on 23 December 2009 - 21:12
I am still learning how to be an educated buyer and owner, but Stryker and his robo hips, i do not want to take any risks. i learned a lot since i made my first post about the difference between preliminary and final OFA scores. i also learned you can go on the OFA website and search dogs by the registration number to check up about a dog.
I feel pretty naive now. But at least i didn't get another dog that might wind up to be like Stryker was.
by Pharaoh on 23 December 2009 - 21:12
NO A STAMP OR OFA!!!!!!
Michele
by Jenni78 on 23 December 2009 - 22:12
LOTS of breeders breed dogs w/out certifications. Some are just more deceitful about how they go about it. Look on the bright side; at least this guy is up front and tells you his take on OFA. That way, you have all the information in hand and the ability to make an informed decision. My real problem is with the fur baby breeders who say "OFA" and whatever rating...but neglect to mention that they're only preliminary xrays. Then they charge $1500-1800 for a puppy even though they won't pay a few hundred bucks to have the parents certified. Or the ones that are so stupid that they put the number on the website, say the dog is OFA good, for example, but the number corresponds to a "fair" rating instead.
Moral of the story...be very very careful and do not just take a breeder's word or website as gospel that their dogs are xrayed/certified. Personally...I don't think OFA is the be all, end all b/c it is not nearly subjective enough in its rating system. I prefer to look at the xrays myself. However, if that is of utmost importance to you, be sure that the pup you end up with is TRULY out of certified (NOT just PRELIM'D) parents.
ALSO---not to scare you, Leathan k9, but you STILL might end up w/a dog like Stryker. Shit happens.
by Pharaoh on 24 December 2009 - 00:12
I did before I put a deposit. Both of Pharaoh's parents have a stamps, his mother is fast normal. I looked up their ZWs and they were both very low. Pharaoh passed his OFA with a fair. The OFA sends the xrays two 3 board certified radiologists. Pharaoh had 2 votes for fair and 1 vote for good. I may have them retaken, but, that is a passing score and it puts him on the high end of fair. His elbows were clear. But, I am not a breeder. I have one dog.
www.offa.org/search.html
www.schaeferhunde.de/site/index.php
Many breeders put OFA PRELIM GOOD on their website and the dog is 3 or 4-well, what can I say.
Michele
by ILMD on 24 December 2009 - 01:12
A long history of certified hips (and elbows) are very, very important. Do not accept anything less. Look for the breeder that emphasis these things, along with character.
by luvdemdogs on 24 December 2009 - 07:12
At least the breeder was up front with his lack of OFA scores. I wouldn't not buy a dog from him, but I'd want to see the dogs parents and grandparents.
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