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by Weezy on 24 November 2009 - 00:11
FYI to those that are interested. this U-tube video is on a Plague hitting in the Ukraine right now and this
Has not been on the News channels. It is spreading rapidly. It is NOT H1N1. It is about 10 minutes long.
Please share link with those you care about so that they can make an informed decison to believe or not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A89TNMuhMkM&feature
I have passed this link on to my address book.
Weezy.
Has not been on the News channels. It is spreading rapidly. It is NOT H1N1. It is about 10 minutes long.
Please share link with those you care about so that they can make an informed decison to believe or not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A89TNMuhMkM&feature
I have passed this link on to my address book.
Weezy.
by hodie on 24 November 2009 - 00:11
INFLUENZA PANDEMIC (H1N1) 2009 (106): UKRAINE, WORLD HEALTH ORGANISATION
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International Society for Infectious Diseases
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Date: Tue 17 Nov 2009
Source: World Health Organisation (WHO), CSR, disease Outbreak News [edited]
<http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_11_16/en/index.html>
Pandemic (H1N1) 2009, Ukraine -- WHO Update 2
---------------------------------------------
As of 17 Nov 2009, preliminary tests reveal no significant changes in
the pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus based on investigations of samples
taken from patients in Ukraine. Analyses are being performed by 2 WHO
influenza collaborating centres as part of the global influenza
surveillance network. Preliminary genetic sequencing shows that the
virus is similar to the virus used for production of the pandemic
influenza vaccine, reconfirming the vaccine's efficacy at this time.
Additional questions about the pandemic virus circulating in Ukraine
will be answered as more data is available.
The WHO commends the government of Ukraine for its open sharing of
samples to inform global monitoring of the virus for signs of change.
A total of 34 samples were analysed independently by the WHO
Collaborating Centre for Reference and Research on Influenza, Mill
Hill in London, UK, and the WHO Collaborating Centre for the
Surveillance, Epidemiology and Control of Influenza in Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
--
Communicated by:
ProMED-mail Rapporteur Marianne Hopp
[This statement from WHO has scotched some of the wilder rumours
regarding the identity of the agent responsible for the current
outbreak of influenza and acute respiratory illness in Ukraine. The
genome sequencing analyses carried out in the UK and the USA indicate
that the Ukrainian outbreak is an extension of the 2009 pandemic of
H1N1 influenza spreading eastwards through Europe and beyond. - Mod.CP]
http://www.promedmail.org/pls/otn/wwv_flow.accept
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A ProMED-mail post
<http://www.promedmail.org>
ProMED-mail is a program of the
International Society for Infectious Diseases
<http://www.isid.org>
Date: Tue 17 Nov 2009
Source: World Health Organisation (WHO), CSR, disease Outbreak News [edited]
<http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_11_16/en/index.html>
Pandemic (H1N1) 2009, Ukraine -- WHO Update 2
---------------------------------------------
As of 17 Nov 2009, preliminary tests reveal no significant changes in
the pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus based on investigations of samples
taken from patients in Ukraine. Analyses are being performed by 2 WHO
influenza collaborating centres as part of the global influenza
surveillance network. Preliminary genetic sequencing shows that the
virus is similar to the virus used for production of the pandemic
influenza vaccine, reconfirming the vaccine's efficacy at this time.
Additional questions about the pandemic virus circulating in Ukraine
will be answered as more data is available.
The WHO commends the government of Ukraine for its open sharing of
samples to inform global monitoring of the virus for signs of change.
A total of 34 samples were analysed independently by the WHO
Collaborating Centre for Reference and Research on Influenza, Mill
Hill in London, UK, and the WHO Collaborating Centre for the
Surveillance, Epidemiology and Control of Influenza in Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
--
Communicated by:
ProMED-mail Rapporteur Marianne Hopp
[This statement from WHO has scotched some of the wilder rumours
regarding the identity of the agent responsible for the current
outbreak of influenza and acute respiratory illness in Ukraine. The
genome sequencing analyses carried out in the UK and the USA indicate
that the Ukrainian outbreak is an extension of the 2009 pandemic of
H1N1 influenza spreading eastwards through Europe and beyond. - Mod.CP]
http://www.promedmail.org/pls/otn/wwv_flow.accept
by hodie on 24 November 2009 - 00:11
INFLUENZA PANDEMIC (H1N1) 2009 (103): UKRAINE
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[1]
Date: Sat 14 Nov 2009
Source: The New York Times [edited]
<http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/14/world/europe/14flu.html?_r=1&percent2362;=&hpw=&percent2360;br=&pagewanted=print>
When patients began arriving in Vyacheslav Bonder's intensive care
unit 2 weeks ago, their lungs so saturated with blood that they could
barely gasp, the only thing he could compare it to was a field
hospital in wartime. As soon as he hooked one patient up to a
ventilator, a 2nd and 3rd would appear in the doorway. By that time,
hospitals were clearing wards to make room for a wave of pneumonia
cases, and people were crowding into drugstores to buy whatever they
could get their hands on. Rumors were circulating that the government
had ordered the city aerially sprayed with chemicals, to cure Lviv of
disease or, in a grimmer version, to exterminate its carriers.
The panic lifted almost as quickly as it had arrived, and the World
Health Organization announced Friday [13 Nov 2009] that the swine flu
[pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus infection] illnesses and deaths so far in
Ukraine -- 265 fatalities nationwide, with 87 in the Lviv region --
were statistically no worse than those in other countries. But what
happened here has drawn rapt attention from experts bracing for the
epidemic to hit Europe, and especially the fragile health care
systems of countries of the former Soviet Union. Early findings are
that serious cases mounted because the sick avoided hospitalization
until their illness was dangerously advanced, stockpiles of Tamiflu
were locked in centralized locations and the supply of ventilators
fell short,
16-NOV-09 PRO/AH/EDR> Influenza pandemic (H1N1) 2009 (103): Ukraine 20091116.3959
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A ProMED-mail post
<http://www.promedmail.org>
ProMED-mail is a program of the
International Society for Infectious Diseases
<http://www.isid.org>
[1]
Date: Sat 14 Nov 2009
Source: The New York Times [edited]
<http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/14/world/europe/14flu.html?_r=1&percent2362;=&hpw=&percent2360;br=&pagewanted=print>
When patients began arriving in Vyacheslav Bonder's intensive care
unit 2 weeks ago, their lungs so saturated with blood that they could
barely gasp, the only thing he could compare it to was a field
hospital in wartime. As soon as he hooked one patient up to a
ventilator, a 2nd and 3rd would appear in the doorway. By that time,
hospitals were clearing wards to make room for a wave of pneumonia
cases, and people were crowding into drugstores to buy whatever they
could get their hands on. Rumors were circulating that the government
had ordered the city aerially sprayed with chemicals, to cure Lviv of
disease or, in a grimmer version, to exterminate its carriers.
The panic lifted almost as quickly as it had arrived, and the World
Health Organization announced Friday [13 Nov 2009] that the swine flu
[pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus infection] illnesses and deaths so far in
Ukraine -- 265 fatalities nationwide, with 87 in the Lviv region --
were statistically no worse than those in other countries. But what
happened here has drawn rapt attention from experts bracing for the
epidemic to hit Europe, and especially the fragile health care
systems of countries of the former Soviet Union. Early findings are
that serious cases mounted because the sick avoided hospitalization
until their illness was dangerously advanced, stockpiles of Tamiflu
were locked in centralized locations and the supply of ventilators
fell short,
16-NOV-09 PRO/AH/EDR> Influenza pandemic (H1N1) 2009 (103): Ukraine 20091116.3959
by hodie on 24 November 2009 - 00:11
YouTube is hardly a reliable source.............

by CrysBuck25 on 24 November 2009 - 01:11
Sadly, neither the WHO or the CDC is any better than YouTube...
Crys
Crys

by MaggieMae on 24 November 2009 - 01:11
....nor The New York Times
by SitasMom on 24 November 2009 - 01:11
http://www.kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2009/11/02/11155.shtml
http://mignews.com.ua/en/categ386/articles/376396.html
http://ukraineplague.blogspot.com/
http://fto.co.za/news/trail-pneumonic-plague-ukraine-chemtrails-spray-fears-vaccine-2009110815746.html
http://mignews.com.ua/en/categ386/articles/376396.html
There's a bunch of info being spread out - guess we'll know what's happening soon.
Yellowrose is just going to love this thread!
http://mignews.com.ua/en/categ386/articles/376396.html
http://ukraineplague.blogspot.com/
http://fto.co.za/news/trail-pneumonic-plague-ukraine-chemtrails-spray-fears-vaccine-2009110815746.html
http://mignews.com.ua/en/categ386/articles/376396.html
There's a bunch of info being spread out - guess we'll know what's happening soon.
Yellowrose is just going to love this thread!

by Weezy on 24 November 2009 - 05:11
Sure makes a person wonder!!
Often times Government does things and then denies it even knew about anything.
Sorry Hodie
I would love to believe WHO, but I don't . :(
Thanks sitasMom for sharing the links. More to ponder.
Often times Government does things and then denies it even knew about anything.
Sorry Hodie
I would love to believe WHO, but I don't . :(
Thanks sitasMom for sharing the links. More to ponder.

by Elkoorr on 24 November 2009 - 15:11
Dont know about the Ukraine, but one thing I know for a fact: there are a few clusters of H1N1 cases that are resistant to tamiflu here in North Carolina. Dont know about other states though.
by hodie on 24 November 2009 - 17:11
There have been some isolated cases of tamiflu resistant H1N1 cases in the U.S., Norway, and a few other countries. To date, in at least one case, the resistant strain appears to have been passed to someone else. The good news is that so far, the really severe cases are low in number, but those who do get really sick, do so very, very quickly and suddenly are seriously ill with life-threatening illness. This is an evolving situation and, because of how the influenza viruses of the past have behaved, is being closely watched by scientists, virologists, physicians and epidemiologists all over the world. I have had many students of college age come down with the H1N1 virus and several of them have been very ill and out of school for 4 weeks. Thankfully, all recovered, but they hope to never have such a virus again.
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