a trick is a deception not a lie - OT - Page 1

Sorry everyone, I just didn't have the strength to pass this one up.....

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=18712&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DPD

E-MAIL LEAK TURNS UP HEAT ON GLOBAL WARMING ADVOCATES

In an embarrassing blow to the movement to combat global warming, hackers have posted hundreds of e-mails from a world-renowned British institute that show researchers colluding to exaggerate warming and undermine skeptics, says the Boston Herald.

University of East Anglia (UAE) officials confirmed the Climate Research Unit's e-mails were hacked, but were unable to confirm the veracity of posted content, according to British and American news reports. Skeptics of human-caused warming, who note temperatures appear to have stopped climbing, called the news explosive:

• Around 1,000 emails and 3,000 documents were stolen from UEA computers by hackers last week and uploaded on to a Russian server before circulating on Websites run by climate change skeptics.
• Some of the correspondence indicates that the manipulation of data was widespread among global warming researchers.

"This is not a smoking gun, this is a mushroom cloud," climatologist Patrick J. Michaels told the New York Times (NYT).
One of the emails under scrutiny, written by Phil Jones, the center's director, in 1999, reads: "I've just completed Mike's Nature (the science journal) trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (i.e., from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline."

The e-mail authors also refer to skeptics as "idiots," fantasize in one case about beating up a skeptic, and discuss ways to prevent skeptics' papers from being published, London's Daily Telegraph reported.

Prof. Jones has insisted that he used the word "trick" to mean a "clever thing to do," rather than to indicate deception. He has denied manipulating data.

Lord Lawson, who served as chancellor for six years under Margaret Thatcher, has called for an independent inquiry into claims that leading climate change scientists manipulated data to strengthen the case for man-made global warming.

Source: Matthew Moore, "Lord Lawson calls for public inquiry into UEA global warming data 'manipulation,' " London Daily Telegraph, November 23, 2009; and Herald Staff, "E-mail leak turns up heat on global warming advocates," Boston Herald, November 23, 2009.

For Telegraph text:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/globalwarming/6634282/Lord-Lawson-calls-for-public-inquiry-into-UEA-global-warming-data-manipulation.html  

For Herald text:

http://www.bostonherald.com/business/general/view.bg?articleid=1213483&srvc=business&position=recent  

For more on Global Warming:

http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_Category=32  

 

Sorry, I could not help myself and am posting more OT stuff, well sort-of since the topic of supplements are often asked about here.


Editor's note: David Frum, resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, was special assistant to President George W. Bush in 2001-2. He is the author of six books, including "Comeback: Conservatism That Can Win Again" and the editor of frumforum.com

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Federal regulators are so nervous about over-selling aspirin's benefits that they have restricted statements about aspirin to the most bland and basic. Yet while the statements about aspirin have to be cushioned in the vaguest generalities, snake oil flim-flam can be huckstered in the most truth-defying way, thanks to a 1994 law coaxed through Congress by the people who make these drugs.

For the entire article see:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/11/23/frum.supplements.drugs/index.html

This is another Enron.

Sitasmom,

a trick is a deception not a lie.....
Sorry everyone, I just didn't have the strength to pass this one up..... 

Is this the same as chastising people who advertise puppies or dogs on the forum and telling them there is an ad section? Then a couple of months later start pushing dogs on the same forum.    Like posting links for dogs for sale on their own website in threads????

Sorry, just couldn't help myself....I wouldn't mention it if you wouldn't post your OT nonsense.  If you are going to be a good lier you need to have a very good memory.  I remember you professing that you would stick to dog related comments since starting you new business venture and would avoid posting OT crap like this.  You asked us to cut you some slack and we did, is that over now?

JIm

I can tell it's a Monday, and the moon is coming on.
We will have two moons in December, wont that be a hoot.
And the gangs all here.

A trick is a deception or more rightly an illusion.

The truth is out there.    You just have to get past what your being told.

Moons.

Moons -- What is the Truth?

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Be more specific Maggiemae,
The truth is no one see's whats coming.
And some people just don't get it.
The truth is not a spoken word but the way it is.
And some people as nice as they try to appear have a mean hateful streak running through their souls.
And there is nothing new about double standards.
Thats human nature at work.

I haven't seen an excellence here at all.


Moons.

sitasmom,

eurosport must be desperate, it seems to me they let anyone sell their dogs. i remember a few years back a lady out of illinios or indiana sold eurosport dogs after her 3rd or 4th website she finaly disappeared. the tos of this site does not allow signatures with advertising like alpinek9.com uses on almost every post. anyone who uses a signature to promote their kennel should be banned.

maggie you have a very selective memory and only remember what you want to remember. do you live in texas? the only reason you do not tell us what lines your dogs come from is you are scared we will see you are actually a puppy mill.

GTR