Liver and Blue German Shepherds

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by newGSDlover on 18 November 2009 - 19:11

I am new to this site, but I am curious if the original guy that posted ever found a liver or blue german shepherd. I have always wanted a liver puppy myself. I found one about a year ago, but before I could rescue it from the owner she had already disposed of it because he other puppies were ready to be sold and the buyer were on their way to pick them up. I personally think that this is cruel. I understand that it is considered to be a flaw and most people do not want them to be bred again. If they are healthy then why do they not get a chance to live. I would love a liver shepherd not to breed but to have as a companion or train. The thing that I have never been able to understand is why people only dispose of the actual puppy in the litter that is considered to be a "flaw" the other puppies are not carriers of this "flaw" now? Someone correct me if I am wrong please, but I thought that the whole litter would have to be taken out to get rid of the genetic trate. I hope that I have not stepped on anyone's toes or made anyone mad all I know is I personally like the liver and white shepherds, I have never owned one but if I could ever find a liver one I would.

P.S. I am not a breeder just a GSD lover

by VomMarischal on 18 November 2009 - 20:11

I used to have this girl...java. She didn't need to be put down just for being weird looking. She's very happily living on a beef ranch with a family. She's not going to be bred, ever. But her normal siblings CAN be bred as long as they are bred to a dog that doesn't also carry the liver trait. It can eventually be bred out with a great deal of care...although there's always that tiny chance that it's lurking in there somewhere.

by Timmy on 18 November 2009 - 21:11

I myself am no expert but to my understanding and knowledge you are correct, even the other pups in the litter can carry the liver and blue genes. Personally I see nothing wrong with placing either colors in homes to enjoy life just as much as the other littermates get to. Besides the liver and blues can always be sold with limited registration and spay/neuter contracts.

by snajper69 on 18 November 2009 - 21:11

hmmm, I am on the fence here, first of all I do belive that in order to improve breed we would have to PTS every dog that do not comfort, but a the same I udnerstand your point why not let someone enjoy it as a pet. If it would be my decision and my litter I would put the whole litter to sleep. I know it might seem cruel. Bet genetics always catches up with us.

by beetree on 18 November 2009 - 21:11

Wow snaiper,

that's pretty harsh treatment when a little spay and neutering will stop the dreaded rogue genes, very efficiently. The punishment should fit the crime, and being the wrong color is a minor offense, IMHO.

by michael49 on 18 November 2009 - 23:11

snaiper69, How for back up the line would you pts these dogs? Parents , grandparents, great grandparents, seems like everyone is in question here, the pup didn't just decide to be a liver on his own. Seems to me that spay - nueter for the entire litter and the parents would be the way to go, no need to kill any of the dogs.

by Two Moons on 18 November 2009 - 23:11

If you look deeper you will see its more than just a color variation.
Spay, neuter would be great if people actually had it done.
Handing off animals to shelters doesn't help anything in the grand scheme of things either.

NewGSDlover,
Its fine that you would like to own a blue or a liver, the problem is people who have them ARE breeding them.
You'll get no argument from me, any dog can be a loving loyal companion, but breeding is something some people do take very seriously.
Imagine buying an expensive pure bred dog only to find out after you have fallen in love with it, and spent a small fortune on it, that it has genetic problems. You would naturally blame the breeder as you should.

There must be standards.

Moons.

by MVF on 19 November 2009 - 00:11

It's too bad that people who would kill innocent puppies for their color are even allowed near dogs.

by Two Moons on 19 November 2009 - 00:11

The crime is people who don't take responsibility for their animals.

by skullirylla on 19 November 2009 - 01:11

Why not pts the parent's also ? NOT!,... seeing they are the carrier of the gene,if someone wanted the pup ,why not let it go to a home with a spay/neuter agreement ? WHY would anyone want to euthanize an innocent pup for being the wrong color ? JMHO

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